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The Lumberjack Part 1 : Piloting a Lumberjack

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Phoebe:

--- Quote from: HamsterIV on April 09, 2013, 12:34:55 pm ---I don't often take the lumberjack into battle since I can't rely on pub game gunners to hit what they are aiming at. Thanks for the tips especially the high angle one. I played worms back in the day, but usually used grenades and ninja rope.

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"Pub game gunners"  will never learn to aim a Lumberjack until captains man up and put them on their ships and provide reasonable learning curve through proper flying to get these gunners trained up on them.

That's exactly what this thread is trying to motivate.

Lumberjack is easily the one weapon that needs the MOST attention from a pilot in order to make it worth using for the gunner out of any weapon.   The pilots experience with it is even more impotant than the gunners experience with it.

I have been trying to save this weapon from it's position where it's only used in "fun games" by more advanced crews- and quickly discarded by everyone else because they think the weapon just sucks - because they can't utilize it and do not understand it's uses and limitations.

Train a local gunner up to be a beast ;- train yourself in piloting first.

HamsterIV:

--- Quote from: Phoebe on April 09, 2013, 01:58:16 pm ---Lumberjack is easily the one weapon that needs the MOST attention from a pilot in order to make it worth using for the gunner out of any weapon.   The pilots experience with it is even more impotant than the gunners experience with it.

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In my experience most weapons fit on a slope of pilot skill to gunner skill. The Hellhound requires almost no gunner skill but a ton of pilot skill, the Manticore requires a moderate ammount of both, and the Lumberjack/Heavy Flack require almost no pilot skill and a ton of gunner skill. I don't consider sitting still with the gun pointed in the direction of a target at range to be a very high skill maneuver. It is beyond the grasp of many new captains to park their ship and let their gunners do their job, but that is a failure at the tactical level not the pilot skill level.

Perhaps I am wrong, since I don't "man up" and utilize these difficult weapons.

Phoebe:
and the Lumberjack/Heavy Flack require almost no pilot skill and a ton of gunner skill.


You are indeed very wrong here;- some of the recent pilots I'm jacking for can give you a rundown on how long it takes them for their lumbership to start being effective; in terms of how much they have to know and take into account as captains.

I've been teaching AquaMac and Lockheart to pilot LB ships - I know I can gun them;- they're not halfway yet to really have gotten everything down and I'm well 20 hours on my way;- and they are not exactly new players to GoIO

RearAdmiralZill:
Its really just a matter of flying style. For instance, the way you fly a hwacha-fish is completely different from a lumber-fish. It requires much more pilot-to-gunner communication. That is attributed to the range (and arming time) as well as arc. Lumberjack's horizontal arc is tiny.

I will disagree that this requires more pilot skill than gunner skill. It is more even to me. Yea, it takes a good pilot to hold aim and get the right altitude and range, but the gunner has to compensate for the fact its an airship that doesnt just sit still all the time, and be able to make those extremely long range shots that it can manage.

The reason its not used in Pub games is that 1/2 the time, your gunner isnt saying anything to you. Then its like a 35% chance he's got lesmok for the long shots you need to make. I love the lumberjack, but you wont sell it as this easy thing to use. It takes practice, and fairly good gunning/piloting + communication between them to pull off correctly. Its fairly easier if youre rolling a galleon with them, ill admit, but nothing close to the ease of Hwacha or Carronade. Id also say the Flak is just as hard (effectively) to use now as Lumberjack.

Moriarty:

--- Quote from: RearAdmiralZill on April 09, 2013, 02:37:57 pm --- Id also say the Flak is just as hard (effectively) to use now as Lumberjack.

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You know what, Maybe your not so bad Zill.

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