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Kamoba:
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on February 26, 2015, 09:34:09 am ---
--- Quote from: Kamoba on February 26, 2015, 09:27:53 am ---Not implying its not a bug, just unable to confirm they are not able to.use up ammo until I get into game and test it, but it certainly.appears that they're not emptying the clip first, but instead sitting on the gun - not shooting - ammo changed.
It is if they're actually reloading or not which may be the bug, if they're reloading, its not a bug, if they're not physically reloading the ammo, its a bug.
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AI don't hold the ammo the player has. so upon reload it goes to default. Of course it wouldnt load the ammo it doesnt have.
point is they don't SHOOT the ammo first.
I swear you don't use logic Kamo. Its a bug with a fairly specific condition (it occurs mainly on as you were, with enemy in arc but not in gun range but within AI's aggro range) but it does have a high repro rate.
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I think you are misreading something I said because what you said basically confirms what I said, in different conditions.
For example, crew loads greased to Gatling, runs to balloon to buff balloon, AI jumps onto Gatling, no enemy in agro range nor arc, crew confirms AI changed gun to heavy ammo.
I don't know if the reload animation happened or not.
Artemis, same thing except ammo changes from burst to default.
What I'm saying is I want to do a controlled test to if the ammo change to heavy/default/anyotherammoAImayuse is instant or not.
By controlled test I also mean recorded...
What you're saying is my logic is dumb because you're saying a similar thing?
Arturo Sanchez:
--- Quote from: Kamoba on February 26, 2015, 09:48:43 am ---
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on February 26, 2015, 09:34:09 am ---
--- Quote from: Kamoba on February 26, 2015, 09:27:53 am ---Not implying its not a bug, just unable to confirm they are not able to.use up ammo until I get into game and test it, but it certainly.appears that they're not emptying the clip first, but instead sitting on the gun - not shooting - ammo changed.
It is if they're actually reloading or not which may be the bug, if they're reloading, its not a bug, if they're not physically reloading the ammo, its a bug.
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AI don't hold the ammo the player has. so upon reload it goes to default. Of course it wouldnt load the ammo it doesnt have.
point is they don't SHOOT the ammo first.
I swear you don't use logic Kamo. Its a bug with a fairly specific condition (it occurs mainly on as you were, with enemy in arc but not in gun range but within AI's aggro range) but it does have a high repro rate.
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I think you are misreading something I said because what you said basically confirms what I said, in different conditions.
For example, crew loads greased to Gatling, runs to balloon to buff balloon, AI jumps onto Gatling, no enemy in agro range nor arc, crew confirms AI changed gun to heavy ammo.
I don't know if the reload animation happened or not.
Artemis, same thing except ammo changes from burst to default.
What I'm saying is I want to do a controlled test to if the ammo change to heavy/default/anyotherammoAImayuse is instant or not.
By controlled test I also mean recorded...
What you're saying is my logic is dumb because you're saying a similar thing?
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AI don't have special ammo. The hell did that AI get the heavy from when AI NEVER load anything but default?
Logic by nature comes from a chain of previous thoughts and observations.
Your mentioning of AI loading special ammo is out of nowhere.
Kamoba:
AI load and shoot heavy on Gatling gun pre-1.4.0
I remember testing that on practice and in game.
Indreams:
AI does load special ammo. I can confirm that. They seem to have a preference for heavy ammo.
While testing the minotaur gun spire build on practice mode, I've noticed that the AI puts heavy ammo to the minotaur. That was two -days ago.
So, yea, AI will load ammos into guns.
Arturo Sanchez:
--- Quote from: Kamoba on February 26, 2015, 09:53:52 am ---AI load and shoot heavy on Gatling gun pre-1.4.0
I remember testing that on practice and in game.
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If that were true I'd be hearing that heavy. I'd be seeing the bullets fly straighter.
I have not seen that. Guess I'll test it later when this games makes me less depressed on how bad its gotten for balance. I want my repair cycles back dammit.
But yes you wrote on your post that AI would reload the ammo that was already in it b4. It doesn't have that ammo so why would it? So not misreading on my part. Its you miswriting.
Mentioning of heavy being loaded randomly came up on your post after.
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