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DJ Logicalia:

Richard LeMoon:
Maybe it is time to revisit a pilot tool idea I had for dealing with lots of fire. With some thought and tinkering, I am sure a Halon system could be just the thing for newer crews facing fire onslaughts. After they learn how to deal with fire normally, the tool becomes redundant and they stop using it. Fire suppression training wheels, so to speak.

nanoduckling:
The flamer is a weapon best paired with something that disrupts chem cycles. As Sammy and Patched point out, it is a weapon that starts out seeming unbalanced because without chemspray applied to vital components before the engagement starts you are in deep crap. With it a flame thrower alone is basically useless. Pair it with something that disrupts chem cycles (carronade or gatling say) and it is a effective, reasonably well balanced weapon that tips longer engagements in your favour.

I'm sorry you were paired against very experienced crews. This is likely a result of MM determining from the novice games that you played in that you are pretty good, giving you a high win rate. There aren't many experienced players in the MM queue at any given time, so they are often just paired off against whatever the matchmaker thinks are the next best players available. On the plus side you can be proud that is you, on the down side 1000+ matches experience is hard to overcome even with great twitch reflexes and a sharp mind.

Once out of novice games all players have access to all the same ships and tools. This is not a level thing, there is just a tactic (flame spam) which enemies are exploiting to beat you. Once you know how to counter it (chem cycles), it will be less of a problem. Of course then you will find new tactics you will have to counter (snipe heavy builds, meta builds, blending, and on and on), this game is absurdly deep. If you want someone to go over the basics of chem cycles with you and your crew feel at liberty to contact me in game. The basics are pretty simple. A word of advice though, always, always, always make sure you have at least one engineer with chemspray unless there is a reason you wont need it (instagib mobulas or spires frequently run chem spray free). Experienced pilots check the enemy load-outs and if you do not have any chemspray they are going to include something with fire damage, likely a flame thrower, possible more than one. Simply having your engineers bring chemspray will reduce the amount of fire spam you encounter, even if you are using it sub-optimally.

BlackenedPies:
So yeah, like everyone has said there will be no attempt to balance the flame. Fire extinguishers are completely useless against constant fire no matter how good your engineers are. Their only use is prolonging your death.
Unless you're using a gun that absolutely needs a gunner (lumberjack and mine launcher), have 3 engineers with chem spray. Chem spray after every single reload. If you miss a chem you lose. The good news is that with proper chem their flame is useless giving you a precious advantage to make something happen.

Not having a gunner gives you a huge advantage because buff engineers are superior on nearly all weapons with their ability to buff guns and components (buff and chem every reload). The standard buff loadout is wrench buff chem. Bring 3 chem sprays and a buff and wreck those bullies.

Call it what you want, but when I used to always use flames I was bullying pubs. I used to fly a double flame squid (43 win streak with all AI) and made many rage quit. Having nearly the whole enemy team leave was a common occurrence. Many likely never came back. It's so freaking easy why wouldn't you use it against pubs?

Replaceable:
Been thinking today actually, and I agree with Pies. There should be some middle ground.
Not a binary system of death and fire or perfectly okay. It's a bit weird. 

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