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Communists in GOIO

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TeddyBearMafia:
ITT: Drama.

In Canadian society the image of the hammer and sickle has no real impact beyond a vague association with Communism and labour rights movements. I am, however, willing to be completely cognizant of the kinds of emotions it might inspire in those who lived under an oppressive regime that used that image as part of its propaganda.

I would have to side with Skies on this one: if we ban the hammer/sickle, we just ban all overtly political and religious symbology from Guns. I, however, really oppose the idea of a witch-hunt on this issue. I would imagine that some who would use that image would have no real conception of its history (keeping in mind that many of GoIO's players were now born after the fall of the iron curtain), and as such I feel that polite requests to desist, however tough they may be to stomach, are the right course of action.

All the other arguments in the this thread about Nazis are just tangents, guys. The original point was that a player felt uncomfortable as a result of the use of symbology with a specific historical, spacial, and ideological meaning, and we should ideally respect a request that costs us little to nothing to adhere towards.

BlackenedPies:
It's about intent, and they're probably not using the symbol to symbolize communism. I automatically associate it with communism, but for many it is synonymous with the Marxism-Leninism regimes.

I think Muse's intention of including it was for it's association with communism, not Marxism-Leninism. I'm not sure how the GoI symbols work but maybe it could be removed. Although I do think in that case we should remove any other political and religious symbols.

I think of it kinda like the confederate flags on the backs of trucks over here. There isn't a confederate flag symbol in GoI, but if there was a clan would use it. But it's important to note the two different symbolisms of the hammer and sickle. I can't judge whether having the second association is grounds for removal.

Kamoba:
Oh boy, this subject comes up in every community, the one that no one likes discussing but makes oh so many people very emotional.

While I do understand what Scwabe says about the damage done, I also do not agree that the internet should dictate what symbols can and cannot be used...
The symbol itself did not perform the evil, it was those who abused their positions of power to turn what the symbol once stood for into something it was not meant to be.

Also, if Muse were to take action against this one clanntag, they'd have to moniter and censor every tag in the game all the time, more than they do now... Also if that's the case, Patched Wizard uses a + symbol as his tag, that reminds me too much of the crucifix, an item used to execute hundreds upon hundreds of people in its time, in a dreadfully humiliating way, as well as used as a symbol by a religion which by itself can be held responsible for the murder of millions because of individuals who abused the religion...

It's frustrating, and infuriating but internet censorship can only go, so far unfortunately..

Skrimskraw:
Communism is not the same as stalinism lol.

Supimpa:
What, you reported someone for using the communist symbol? Please tell me this is a joke.

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