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The Community Video Tutorial Project
Schwalbe:
The thing is, in my opinion, that we CANNOT avoid telling basics, mostly because most new players have no idea that what are they doing is a mistake.
I'd even suggest reading through some tutorials and make videos containing the knowledge in it, shown in a more friendly way, than epic-length wall of text. To show, how this really works in practice, especially why is it a really stupid idea to do some things that shouldn't have been done.
When talking about guns or ships - we should put an emphasise, that every single thing in this game (guns, tools, ships and so on) have some certain role, and everything can be very effective if used properly. It's difficulty to develop proper strategy that may create an illusion that, let's just quote another older topic created by newbie, for example, mercury is useless.
As for the steam group. I'm sceptic about that. As I suggested earlier - let's use Trello instead. It's friendly way to give tasks to each member of a board. The best comparison for that is a board divided in sections, to which you pin down small cards with task to do, name, and maybe some additional info about task itself.
What is very good about it - you can easily keep order. (we use Trello boards in our scientific society to handle the organisation of different events, projects, etc.)
I may do some voice acting, if it's needed. But I'm going to need READY script, because I tend to forget words. I may also record something (I think at least)
And we definitely must do a film about a sort of "etiquette" in this game. Because I see too many misbehaving punkheads, who just left their COD, that I'd like to spank, goddammit. I might be exaggerating, but you know - for example: "it's rude to use your own language in international group of people". Or "don't act selfish - winning is not everything. If enemy wins with his experience or outmanevours you, congratulate him and ask, whether he can teach you something. And vice versa - if a bunch of scrubs kick your 45-level ass, don't act like offended damsel."
Yes, this says one of those vicious, taunting, insane, uncivilized bastards.
And we must fucking tell them, that galleon is not that awesome as they might think. Because I'm bloody tired by constant encountering useless scrub galleons.
Kamoba:
--- Quote from: Schwalbe on February 12, 2015, 07:06:32 am ---The thing is, in my opinion, that we CANNOT avoid telling basics, mostly because most new players have no idea that what are they doing is a mistake.
I'd even suggest reading through some tutorials and make videos containing the knowledge in it, shown in a more friendly way, than epic-length wall of text. To show, how this really works in practice, especially why is it a really stupid idea to do some things that shouldn't have been done.
When talking about guns or ships - we should put an emphasise, that every single thing in this game (guns, tools, ships and so on) have some certain role, and everything can be very effective if used properly. It's difficulty to develop proper strategy that may create an illusion that, let's just quote another older topic created by newbie, for example, mercury is useless.
As for the steam group. I'm sceptic about that. As I suggested earlier - let's use Trello instead. It's friendly way to give tasks to each member of a board. The best comparison for that is a board divided in sections, to which you pin down small cards with task to do, name, and maybe some additional info about task itself.
What is very good about it - you can easily keep order. (we use Trello boards in our scientific society to handle the organisation of different events, projects, etc.)
I may do some voice acting, if it's needed. But I'm going to need READY script, because I tend to forget words. I may also record something (I think at least)
And we definitely must do a film about a sort of "etiquette" in this game. Because I see too many misbehaving punkheads, who just left their COD, that I'd like to spank, goddammit. I might be exaggerating, but you know - for example: "it's rude to use your own language in international group of people". Or "don't act selfish - winning is not everything. If enemy wins with his experience or outmanevours you, congratulate him and ask, whether he can teach you something. And vice versa - if a bunch of scrubs kick your 45-level ass, don't act like offended damsel."
Yes, this says one of those vicious, taunting, insane, uncivilized bastards.
And we must fucking tell them, that galleon is not that awesome as they might think. Because I'm bloody tired by constant encountering useless scrub galleons.
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Yes we need to explain the importance of the basics but if we revolve around the basics too much the over-all workload becomes too high.
So I suggest the script and commentator explain the basics while showing the operational crew.
For example: "Here is our main engineer Schwalbe, as you can see the junker has taken heavy damage and they have lost their armour, this has made the hull turn red, so he switched to his spanner and is rebuilding with his spanner as this is the fastest way. The armour is repaired and he has switched back to his mallet for the larger repair now that the component is not broken."
I imagine our script writer would be able to word it better myself. (I propose HamsterV for this.)
Yes emphasis on ship build is needed, making sure the Captain tutorial explains what guns are for disable power and what guns are for killing power, what guns need range and what guns need to be close.
Could you link Trello for us please, perhaps set up a Trello for us to use and link that?
Etiquette and communications yes this should be a thing, including an explanation, the guy who is saying "Don't take a Galleon" is not being an arse but doing so to help get the best result.
As for the point on Galleons, that's why I advise we only use Junker, Pyramidion and Goldfish, the people who watch the tutorials will almost certainly use the same ships featured in the tutorials.
So let's start getting organised and making this happen.
If there are no objections to using Trello, Schwalbe will you set it up for us to get started?
HamsterV will you be able to get started on the scripts?
I shall e-mail Eric (Muse) and direct him to this thread asking about muse POV on this idea and what help they can offer. (Official site links etc)
KitKatKitty, could you work with HamsterV on the scripts? I imagine he'll use googledocs or a wiki (like Omni suggested) for the drafts so you can both work together on it?
Nanoduckling, You're the only person I noticed offering help for video editing, do you include recording from spectator in that service?
If not, we will still need someone who has a computer able to record the match and use the spectator mode to show the crew in action..
So volunteers it's time to step up and let's make this a real thing. :)
Schwalbe:
Board created. I'll add MrDisaster, but I'm going to need any way to add you - mail address or nick on trello (not sure bout the latter).
I'll read the rest of the post later, waiting for a game in lobby.
Kamoba:
--- Quote from: Schwalbe on February 12, 2015, 08:57:44 am ---Board created. I'll add MrDisaster, but I'm going to need any way to add you - mail address or nick on trello (not sure bout the latter).
I'll read the rest of the post later, waiting for a game in lobby.
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Nickname - Kamoba, I just signed up.
www.trello.com - for those who want to sign up and get involved, sign up and throw Scwalbe your nicknames! :)
Schwalbe:
--- Quote from: Kamoba on February 12, 2015, 08:48:58 am ---
So I suggest the script and commentator explain the basics while showing the operational crew.
For example: "Here is our main engineer Schwalbe, as you can see the junker has taken heavy damage and they have lost their armour, this has made the hull turn red, so he switched to his spanner and is rebuilding with his spanner as this is the fastest way. The armour is repaired and he has switched back to his mallet for the larger repair now that the component is not broken."
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Worth considering. But we should not exaggerate with documentarism - if I wanted to watch nature film, I wouldn't play a game. :P
Use it as some shorts - definitely.
--- Quote ---Etiquette and communications yes this should be a thing, including an explanation, the guy who is saying "Don't take a Galleon" is not being an arse but doing so to help get the best result.
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We can generally make an episode about types of players you can find in lobbies. Might go as well as an episode about game slang dictionary.
--- Quote ---As for the point on Galleons, that's why I advise we only use Junker, Pyramidion and Goldfish, the people who watch the tutorials will almost certainly use the same ships featured in the tutorials.
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But somebody MUST say, that those ships are blocked in novice matches for a reason - and explain the reason.
I have an idea. Start every introduction to a ship with a small tour around it, showing what is where. ^^
As for the idea in previous paragraph - we can use those stereotypical types of players in some moments. You know - some of us would record our real selves playing some role. (@Disaster would be a perfect deep-russian noob, I guarantee it, we'd only need some russian dubbing)
--- Quote ---I shall e-mail Eric (Muse) and direct him to this thread asking about muse POV on this idea and what help they can offer. (Official site links etc)
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So far I sent them link to this thread, but without explanation. I guess they'll figure it out themselves. :P
--- Quote ---I imagine he'll use googledocs or a wiki (like Omni suggested) for the drafts so you can both work together on it?
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By the way, how the hell there is no GOIO wiki yet??
--- Quote ---Nanoduckling, You're the only person I noticed offering help for video editing, do you include recording from spectator in that service?
If not, we will still need someone who has a computer able to record the match and use the spectator mode to show the crew in action..
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This is a moment when we should stop and think.
About what?
Actually - we will need some sort of BIG digital storage for our video materials, so we can put our scraps of videos there in respective folders, among sort of other files (we'll have to figure some order of it), so the nanoduckling will only have to download files from there to work on. I'd suggest putting script/scenario/images/whatever there as well.
Send me your Trello nicknames, so I can add you, and we'll not spam around here.
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