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Killing the community, one game at a time.
Ayetach:
Hello Alexor,
I only tend to lurk threads like these as there little substance to contribute to these discussions for my part, but I did want to respond to your posts regarding some of the frustrations you`ve been facing in this game.
It is a fact that players will not be as forgiving with new players all the time and a whole different attitude is taken upon them simply because they appear new (I would know, I have been offered access to play on accounts where levels for them are far lower and witnessing the very behavior you`re describing among some players). But don`t let that discourage you, to be completely frank it took me the better part of 1000 games to really get the hang of every aspect of this game and to overcome my frustrations as to why things were falling apart on ships - and of course the more experianced you get the less flak you *tend* to recieve based on your rep as a player.
Now that doesn`t mean you need to play 1000 matches to do this - it just took me that long to really get the hang of it (call me slower than most) but after a while all that flak really starts to evaporate. This is especially true when you find oppertunities to fly with like-minded fun players that you can get good chemistry with - it is a serious blast. One of my buddies in the early stages of the game was Ightrril from Overwatch, we both started out at roughly the same level and played together lots to overcome the challanges of the game and to also understand it better by experimenting. I would definately encourage the same for you if you get such an oppertunity :)
There`s always going to be a few bad apples in every community, but don`t let that turn you away from fun oppertunities to meet other people instead :)
BlackenedPies:
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--- Quote from: Schwalbe on February 14, 2015, 12:57:39 pm ---I'd rather say these are new players, not aware of the fact, that from every failure you can learn a lesson, but most of them refuse because of sheer lazyness.
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I always say getting your ass handed to you is the best way to get better at something.
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Also known as "Practice makes perfect." And "Trial and error." "Learn from your mistakes." And "Don't charge that galleons broadside!"
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I don't think the players are the problem. What's the learning when getting stomped by meta ships with meta crews? It's playing the game on the hardest setting. Stacked lobbies are playing it on impossible.
I've found the majority of learning comes from being taught. Practice is always good but it doesn't help much when your ship has bad loadouts and keeps getting wrecked. The best practice is playing with experienced players not against them. New players should take advice more often and experienced players should give it more.
The only thing I'm disappointed with the GoI community for is pub stomping with meta ships. Why play a game on easy? It's killing our new community one game at a time.
Ayetach is right
HamsterIV:
On the topic of some people like winning. All of us like winning, and we don't like being put into positions where winning is impossible. We don't mind as much putting other people into a position where winning is impossible.
When I use the match making system I often feel winning is often impossible. My previous win record guarantees I get put on crews who have had a consistent loss record because they don't understand the game systems and don't communicate. No matter how well I shoot, repair, or even fly my actions as an individual are never enough to swing the match in my team's favor. Eventually I just give up and start looking for high level players on my friends list. Next thing I know I am on a team where the lowest level is 25 against my old ship who still doesn't stand a chance and will probably rage quit in the next few matches.
It is unfair to the newbies and unfair to the match making algorithm, but I don't care. The hours I can play are few and I want to make the most of them.
nanoduckling:
As Hamster said, the matchmaker frequently puts me on a ship with folks who are uncommunicative or just bad. Since a bad pilot ensures winning is impossible as your guns don't point at the enemy my gunner and engi win percentages have dropped ~10%, while my pilot win percentage has jumped up by about the same amount. I'm pretty sure this is for precisely the reasons Hamster gives, experienced players on the opposition are crippled if they are crewing and when they get sick of it and a slot opens up they hop over.
It has gotten to the point where I'd rather a total novice 0 games played to a level 15 who has prooved to the matchmaker there are totally clueless.
One partial fix is to decouple MMR for crewing and piloting, but it wont wholly solve the issue, someone has to crew with the idiots.
Schwalbe:
I just wanted to say, that winning is good, but fighting a good, worthy, intense fight is always better, no matter the outcome.
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