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Heavy Weapon Suggestions
ShadedExalt:
Basically everyone throws out suggestions they have for new Heavy weapons. I'll go first:
Magma Cannon: Basically a heavy Hades. A long range, multipurpose weapon. Maybe some side boilers, a magazine loaded from the back of the gun would be really cool. Slow fire rate, applies 5 fire stacks (maybe less?) On hit, bursts of steam when fired and reloaded. Rounds would look like Hades rounds, but longer, bigger, and they'd leave a trail of fire/black smoke.
Jupiter Field Cannon: Basically a heavy Mercury. Would take a long range piercing weapon role, with a clip of one, average reload times, and a little projectile drop. REALLY loud boom when firing, arm sized shell casing ejected when reloading.
Vulcan Heavy Repeating Cannon: Mix a Heavy Flak and a Gatling and you get this. Dual rotary cannon, Shatter main damage. Clip of 50-60, medium spread, maybe a little under the light gat. DAKKA noise when firing, long reload time, heavy screen shake while firing.
Net launcher: Four holes with metal balls with balloons loaded in them, and in the cracks between, lays a net. When fired, it would have a mine like arc, and a huge spread. The balls, after reaching a set distance, would expand the balloons and tense the net. Someone flies into it, they are dealt flamethrower speed damage to balloons and engines.
Zirilfer:
The Jupiter field cannon sounds interesting, though balance makes me think it may be hard to implement. Maybe if it had a crazy amount of recoil, enough to exert force on the ship pushing it backwards or turning it so that other precision weapons would need a second to compensate.
ShadedExalt:
--- Quote from: Zirilfer on November 26, 2014, 11:46:26 pm ---The Jupiter field cannon sounds interesting, though balance makes me think it may be hard to implement. Maybe if it had a crazy amount of recoil, enough to exert force on the ship pushing it backwards or turning it so that other precision weapons would need a second to compensate.
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That adds some pizzazz to it, I like. It could almost be used as a manouvering tool with an effect like that! Sounds about right. Firing the thing would let almost everyone know your general location though, which might be a problem in and of itself.
Jupiter Field Cannon now has ridiculous, ship moving recoil, has tiny arcs, and lets anyone with half an ear know where you are.
Zirilfer:
Also, My suggestion for a heavy weapon would probably be a heavy bomb launcher. Doing minor piercing direct/MAJOR fire on Aoe. It would work like a longer range mine launcher in that you'd want it to arm before it hits it's target. Unlike the mine launcher however, the bomb would explode immediately after arming, doing a massive AoE (Ballpark radius of around 30m (45m with burst)).
1-4 second arming time, medium drop, clip size of... 1 or 2, I can't decide
lesmok arming range ~800 meters (Which would put standard range around 470, incendiary 352 , lochnagar 282)
Average gunner load-outs would be comprised of lesmok for long range; burst, charged and standard for medium; heatsink (if a 2 shot gun) and incendiary for close; and lochnagar for ultra close range.
It would be used similarily to the banshee or flamethrower, as an all purpose weapon to support other guns. Galleons would likely like hwatcha bomb, and lumberjack bomb combos , while spires may like it as a support weapon for hades art/flak combos.
My main concern is that with even very minor piercing damage it would add a lot of power to a merc hflak galleon or an all banshee spire, though the plus side of the merc hflak combo is that you'll have to lock one of those guns to an engi, limiting effective range of one of the 2.
Bronzium:
--- Quote from: ShadedExalt on November 26, 2014, 11:52:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zirilfer on November 26, 2014, 11:46:26 pm ---The Jupiter field cannon sounds interesting, though balance makes me think it may be hard to implement. Maybe if it had a crazy amount of recoil, enough to exert force on the ship pushing it backwards or turning it so that other precision weapons would need a second to compensate.
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That adds some pizzazz to it, I like. It could almost be used as a manouvering tool with an effect like that! Sounds about right. Firing the thing would let almost everyone know your general location though, which might be a problem in and of itself.
Jupiter Field Cannon now has ridiculous, ship moving recoil, has tiny arcs, and lets anyone with half an ear know where you are.
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Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYAZ__J2EmU (start watching at 2:05)
That generally is the major problem with heavy arsenal anyways. Many gunners (when firing heavy artillery) are aware of the danger that by firing such a heavy and loud gun, they alert the enemy to their position, and become an open target. But, most gunners tend to not think of that anyways, so making such a loud gun would really change much. (Even when firing the Hwacha, the enemy sees where you fire the missles from, and can make a calculated guess as to your position in the clouds.)
Nonetheless, that would be a fun weapon to use, I'd get a kick out of that. ;)
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