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Version 1.3.8 Hotfix Release Notes
GeoRmr:
Most often? I don't think its been in the game long enough to say most often, but since its been in I've been using it to see how it fairs.
On the day of patch release most of the biggest GoI fans and best players played the heck out of the game more than usual - my initial experience with matchmaking, fucking A* went straight into good balanced lobbies had some awesome games. Over the next few days the activity from these players returned to normal and my match making experience became pretty consistently what I described in my previous post:
--- Quote ---people who know how to play match-made and distributed between people who don't know how to play, and lots of frustration for everyone.
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Since the hot-fix you've grouped the crewing classes engineer and gunner together for matchmaking. This has left me in a position where I am unable to matchmake for religious reasons, and I am missing the old match list dearly when my friends are offline.
KitKatKitty:
--- Quote ---For the time being when I play I will be playing (and recommend playing) with some rules:
Contain crew form to 1 ship max.
Don't leave a lobby you are matchmade in to.
Don't look at levels on the other team.
Don't rematch.
Don't swap slots or teams through any means.
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I don't like these for many reasons:
Contain crew formto 1 ship max??? really what about clans or friends that may have 6 players on that all want to be in the same match with each other, even on the same side so their is cordination?
Don't leave to lobby you are matchmade into?? This is unrealistic. There are many reasons why someone may want to leave a lobby...a friend may invite them to a different match, something may happen in real life that a person would have to leave quickly, etc.
Don't look at levels on the other team. I can understand this BUT level are more usful than just to see if there will be a pup stomp. What if a "high" level player would like to teach the "low" level players in lobby? Many new players do not ask for help but the Veterans can offer help when they see a level 1 player.
Dont rematch???? Why? what if you liked how the previous match went? maybe it was crazy intense and you want to rematch.
Dont swap? What if a friend or a co-pilot in a clan jumps in game and through match making gets put on the opposite team and you would like to get some clan practice in. The only option is to completely leave that lobby and start the whole match making process again. Losing time and potentially killing the lobby you are leaving.
Hoja Lateralus:
--- Quote from: Neithrantulre on October 27, 2014, 06:47:12 pm ---Matchmaking would work just fine if we got real fixes to real problems and real new content so that the community can grow. It needs a large number of players for it to work. Advertising with steam sales can get warm bodies in the short term, but they inevitably will leave, because they buy it to realize that the game was not even worth the severely discounted rate that they payed. The last time we got fun new toys was closer to the initial release in 2012 than current day.
This system seems to be built on the assumption that GoIO is a huge community with enough pull to keep large numbers of players even through heavy handed and misguided updates. Not every experienced player wants to have to teach new players constantly.
This hotfix made most of my clan uninstall.
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The worst thing is that matchmaking WAS SUPPOSED to be that new shiny cool thing (but also useful) to get new players. I fully understand your clan.
--- Quote from: D.lo-res on October 27, 2014, 06:59:02 pm ---Also, invisible ships!
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-Captain! It's no good.
-What is it?
-Our enemies are....
....wizards!
--- Quote ---On friends list:
Actually it was a built in work around for some of our vet players who already had over 1000 friends. Required no work on their part and gave them pretty much the match list they had before, cutting out any novice games or games without people they knew/liked.
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So you tested a feature on like 0,5 - 1% of most elite game population (both skills and time playing) and recommend this to rest of the players as "bring-back-the-server-list-solution"? I shall not comment on that one.
Wundsalz:
--- Quote from: Keyvias on October 27, 2014, 06:44:40 pm ---Actually it was a built in work around for some of our vet players who already had over 1000 friends. Required no work on their part and gave them pretty much the match list they had before, cutting out any novice games or games without people they knew/liked.
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I think this feature could even kept as is or the former match list could be reintroduced without hurting the matchmaking system as much as the friend join feature does right now. Just check a players glicko2-rating if he tries to join a team and deny his request if it would ruin the balance.
Another remark regarding crew form: please keep it! And also don't restrict the number of players in a pre-made crew-formation! I really like being able to fly with a co-captain of my choice and I think it's a feature which is necessary to keep our clan-scene vital. I think being able to play with a pre-made crew of 8 players is essential to get new clans started and established ones running At least SIR has been growing over several weeks, slowly expanding the player pool we've playing with on a regular basis - all in public matches. So please don't cut the crew form. Let match-making deal with 8-player pre-mades somehow, even at the cost of balance!
Michael Wittmann:
Wellp.....I know there is no reason to even log in and type anything. I learned my lesson with Devs+Money from the Red Orchestra's Devs (Trip Wire) so I will just make it short and sweet
This Mr. Disaster guy is 100% right. experience >
The feeble arguments you Devs are grasping on to are some of the silliest things I ever read in my life. Its clear why you are doing this money and making greenhorns feel "safer" is apparent. That's cool though this is a free world right?Soon coop will make in the biggin's. Power To Ya' Brothers!
I had 12 friends buy this game and a couple other on the fence. I am now never to be trusted again due to the mass praises I gave your game before this update and the hot fix being the nail in my coffin. I even bought it for my cousins. No point in asking for money back for all of us as you will say "We do not deal with money, please contact steam" Even though you KNOW DAMN WELL steam won't give money back. YOU should own up to your failures like honorable men and women and give out of your OWN pockets and let steam keep what they keep because they deserve it for allowing your once great product on steam to the masses. After this massive destruction of core game play steam should keep the money as pay offs and apologies from you men and women. That is of course if you would own up and admit your mistakes. So far reading your "justification" no just no you won't.
With that said I still respect you all for the once flawless game you had and will no long preorder nor will my friends and we will uninstall and move on our way back to Insurgency until those Devs ruin it. Best wishes :-*
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