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Indreams:
The forum seems to be missing a thread on Government. As a political science nerd, I couldn't resist a thread on that.

So, how are the factions governed?

It's clear that the Anglean Republic has a representative government of some form (Republic is in the name.)
I'd assume that the Yesha Empire has some form of an emperor and central government.
The Fjord Baronies, I imagine, would have a hereditary oligarchy.

Other factions are unclear on how they are governed.

It'd be interesting to imagine how these factions would be governed, if they are not governed at all.

Thank you for reading,  :)

DrTentacles:
I think it's more likely the Fjord baronies have a parliamentary monarchy-they definitely have a King. So basically a hereditary oligarchy, but more structured. Like England, if you surgically removed the House of Commons.

I've always viewed Yesha as much like Imperial China, with the addition of a caste system. An Emperor, yes, but also a vast bureaucracy, with civil service tests to determine your role, and possibly secure advancement. It would be hard/impossible to move outside of your assigned caste, though you could advance within it.

Anglea might have a sort of tribal moot-the tribes elect a head, and the head represents them within the Althing.

The Mercentile guild, on the other hand, is interesting. I keep going back to Venice for a model for their government, with a Doge/Prince that is chosen among various great corporation-houses.


Chalcodon is kinda a blank

Indreams:
I'd think the mercantile guild as an alliance of machiavellian states. Despotic, opportunistic, distrusting states held together under profit. Similar to medieval Italy.

And Chaladon, I haven't got a clue. They seem to have some sort of a Utopian community.

I like your idea of the Yesha being similar to Han China. That would make them a strong, powerful "empire"

I know Anglea is viking-like, but I'd like to imagine a republican state safe in the northern mountains, little more organized than tribal-elections.

Jub Jub:
The Order of Chaladon is hard to discern due to the lack of lore on them.


--- Quote ---While the world was swept away by war, famine, plague—the dust of death slowly settling its fine red mist on the parched earth—the Island of Chaladon remained isolated from the devastation.  A Chaladonian could look in one direction to see bright white sands and clear blue waters, then look in the other direction to be met with the smells of ripe fruit and green pastures.  Their fertile land led the Chaladonians to become experts in modern thought and bio-chemical sciences.  After tilling the fields, an old farmer may retire to his workshop to concoct a new fertilizer for his fields to triple its yield.  Before tending to her chores, a girl may work out the kinks of a new hydro-pneumatic system to operate simple machinery.  Life was perfect.

Then word spread that they could teach outsiders how to grow enough crops to feed families for months and with enough to store for winter.  Indeed, the Order could teach others how to turn desolate lands into fertile farms, but they knew it would come at a cost.  The Chaladonians are isolationists by choice, they understood that the world became the way it is because of man being in disunion with the earth.  To burden the land to feed the many will only ensure the death of all their children once the soil sprouts its last seed.

The Chaladonian’s freedom to pursue knowledge is only because they understood what the world could give them—effort is put into the soil and the gift of survival is received.  Take too much, and the gift of death is also earned.

Death balances the scales.
--- End quote ---


But from this (and only this) I would wager that Chaladon has a strong, centralized, facist-type government, where the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Based on their lore description, it doesn't actually say it, but it gives several very subtle hints that Chaladonians purposefully cull the population to make sure that they always have plentiful food:

--- Quote ---While the world was swept away by war, famine, plague—the dust of death slowly settling its fine red mist on the parched earth—the Island of Chaladon remained isolated from the devastation.  A Chaladonian could look in one direction to see bright white sands and clear blue waters, then look in the other direction to be met with the smells of ripe fruit and green pastures.  Their fertile land led the Chaladonians to become experts in modern thought and bio-chemical sciences.  After tilling the fields, an old farmer may retire to his workshop to concoct a new fertilizer for his fields to triple its yield.  Before tending to her chores, a girl may work out the kinks of a new hydro-pneumatic system to operate simple machinery.  Life was perfect.

Then word spread that they could teach outsiders how to grow enough crops to feed families for months and with enough to store for winter.  Indeed, the Order could teach others how to turn desolate lands into fertile farms, but they knew it would come at a cost.  The Chaladonians are isolationists by choice, they understood that the world became the way it is because of man being in disunion with the earth.  To burden the land to feed the many will only ensure the death of all their children once the soil sprouts its last seed.

The Chaladonian’s freedom to pursue knowledge is only because they understood what the world could give them—effort is put into the soil and the gift of survival is received.  Take too much, and the gift of death is also earned.

Death balances the scales.
--- End quote ---

Assuming this is true, and Chaladonians do keep manual control over their population, I'd also imagine them to have rules on who would or would die, or be able to have children. Sickly or weak infants would probably be abandoned, anyone causing problems within society would be executed, and the old or handicapped would be euthanized. I see all of this lending itself very strongly to a Facist-ish type government, which historically wouldn't be too far off, as GoI's time line begins (again according to lore) somewhere near the 1945 (assuming WWI --> WWII never ended). This is when "The Third Way" was becoming massively popular in Europe, so I can very easily see this type of government being represented within the game as Chaladon.   

Indreams:
Up till now, I have thought of the Order as the good guys. (Well, it is the "Order")

Well, if they are like society in The Brave New World and We, I don't think I like them anymore.

But how would the Order maintain control over a agricultural population?

The Order is primarily agricultural, which would suggest a decentralized population. I am not convinced that a strong, fascist, central government can maintain control over the Chaladon.

The alternative that I can think of is that the Order's citizens are ideological to the point of religion. But religion was never mentioned in the World of Icarus, so... does anybody have a good explanation?

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