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[Commander] Sanity keeper - Improved block function & /kick

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Helmic:
Yeah, we're overestimating how many of these griefers aren't actually griefers.  The game isn't going to be appealing to younger kids and antisocial adults in the first place, if they can't understand the social element of the game no amount of kick mechanic tweaking is going to save their experience, they simply won't like the game.  They're not going to play again even if they aren't kicked because they keep losing and everyone keeps yelling at them and there's no way to call your opponents faggots during a match.

Of those who CAN enjoy the game, I'm saying more people currently have their experience tainted by griefing than those who would have been unfairly kicked given Pickle's suggestion.  Griefing is going to become more and more of a problem as the population picks up, we're going to lose some of the factors that kept griefers away before as the community grows, and given the mechanics of the game we're just one good Youtube video away from a surge of copycats.

I mean, it's great that you guys apparently have twelve inch dicks that scare off griefers just by pointing it in their general direction, but for those without that social presence having an easy tool to deal with this problem themselves would be a godsend.

nake:
Another reason to add a kick feature or a way to block your ships to anyone except your friends:

Achievement hunters.
I don't care if you want your X achievement, I mean, try to get it if you can, you'll have all my support. It's not the first time nor the last one that I change ship or weapons to help someone get his achievement.
BUT, if you are a level 2 guy, playing in a ship with medium to high level guys that are loosing and you play as their engineer, just stop buffing the balloon...
We had our hull almost destroyed, no engines, and he was buffing the balloon. And it was not just a moment during the match, it was like 3 complete matches.
I told him to fix or get out, several times, and he kept doing that.

If you don't want to play, just don't play. I remember when I started playing that I felt that getting in a high-level match was a privilege (in fact I still do think so). Why do those guys don't profit and play with us? I needed and engineer! He was an engineer!

I'm sure I'm not the only one with this problem. There MUST be a solution. It's getting really annoying to play this way.
I don't care if it's a kick button or something else, but I believe that this is a big issue. Last 3 nights I played, at least in 2 matches every night I had problems with someone not playing or just ignoring everyone.

It's a cooperative game, let's help the guys that want to cooperate, and avoid people that just want's to annoy.

HamsterIV:
Helmic you are an absolute Jem for funny quotes.


--- Quote from: Helmic on April 04, 2013, 05:44:01 pm ---there's no way to call your opponents faggots during a match.

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Last night other team had to wait for lobby before they could do that. Something about my blender fish must have really pissed them off.


--- Quote from: Helmic on April 04, 2013, 05:44:01 pm ---I mean, it's great that you guys apparently have twelve inch dicks that scare off griefers just by pointing it in their general direction

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So that is what it takes to scare off griefers. I shall have to order those pills from Mexico I keep getting advertizements for in my email.

Helmic:
Hamster if you spell gem with a j again I swear to God I'm unzipping my pants.

Yeah, going into a game and working on achievements to the detriment of your crew is pretty rude.  Most captains will outfit their ships to help their crewmates get achievements, but you have to remember there's three other people on that ship that want to win, the captain has to accommodate for three people's preferences and balance that against what he can actually fly.

As for blocking everyone except friends, that's what a private game is for.  I REALLY don't support a feature to just allow friends to join your ship, that would kill the atmosphere of the community in an instant, not to mention provide a powerful griefing tool.  Set yourself to only allow friends to join your crew, steal crew captain slots, never hit ready.  With a group of friends you could quite possiblly shut down down most of the games available and confuse people into thinking the whole game's stopped working, tricking them into never playing again.

nake:

--- Quote from: Helmic on April 04, 2013, 06:11:50 pm ---As for blocking everyone except friends, that's what a private game is for.
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I don't fully support that idea, it was just something that came to my mind. However, that's not exactly that way. A private game is private for all teams and ships, while what I wanted to say is that only your ship is private.


--- Quote from: Helmic on April 04, 2013, 06:11:50 pm --- that would kill the atmosphere of the community in an instant
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That is a really good point. Most of us probably won't use it too much, but others would do.


--- Quote from: Helmic on April 04, 2013, 06:11:50 pm --- not to mention provide a powerful griefing tool. Set yourself to only allow friends to join your crew, steal crew captain slots, never hit ready.  With a group of friends you could quite possiblly shut down down most of the games available and confuse people into thinking the whole game's stopped working, tricking them into never playing again.

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o.O? You do need a really great amount of friends xD You need more than just 1 ship to stop the counter if the other pilots hit ready. And if enter the game, pay for it with other friends, why  would they just grief around?? To stop 2 matches you need 3 more friends, and being able to enter while there is 2 slots (in a 2vs2 match) as commander!
And AFAIK griefers troll alone, mostly because he they don't understand that this game is cooperative. If they are cooperative enough to get that many friends to grief that way, man, I take off my hat  :-X .


I'm starting to think that the best option is the votekick thing.
You play with a griefer, the rest of the crew suffers him, he gets banned.
You are in another ship and the captain on the other ship just goes to the end of the world and doesn't play, you, your crew, and his crew votekick him.
As someone said before in this thread, this can be used to troll. But it's a lot more difficult to to grief: you need to convince enough people to votekick with you, while without having votekick you just need to stay still in your ship.
I do really believe that this is a nice solution, and if it doesn't work the way we expect and has some hack that we haven't thought of, devs could just disable it.

Any other ideas? Do you like/dislike my votekick solution?

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