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So about that MLG thing
Skrimskraw:
I guess if this is what the community wants, then it is what it should have.
I don't think anyone would like to say no, if everyone else says yes to this.
Skrimskraw:
I got around to reading this entire thread, and the links posted within it. MLG's website is so confusing getting around, so I don't know if I could find any further informations on it.
however I have some questions regarding the notion of this happening, and also some concerns.
Questions:
Why is MLG good, and do you have examples?
What is the possible scenario if goio goes full mlg? What would that mean, and how does their system work?
Are the current organizers of various events in contact with MLG?
Will mlg have any sort of leverage towards the devs?
Will mlg have any sort of leverage towards the teams participating?
What does the following rule mean: All MLG/GameBattles accounts, teams, and roster spots are property of Major League Gaming Inc.
Furthermore I’m guessing this require every team member to sign up on their website?
Will there be monetary prizes involved?
Concerns:
MLG official has absolutely no clue what the game is about. why do I say this? the twitter link they ask for 1v1.
Casters and organizers have worked a lot together on streaming the events so far. MLG doesn’t seem to require the scrimmages to be streamed. Possibly also removes the referee position. Knowing that there are no ingame pause function I can only imagine how this will go down.
The lag test seem in some way irrelevant.
It seems like the games are being managed by MLG, but there is no information on when these games are meant to be played druing the week etc.
Rule: It is the responsibility of both teams to verify the eligibility of all players playing in the match prior to starting or continuing any match play. A team playing with an ineligible player will forfeit the map the ineligible player participated in. – is basicly what we have worked on getting around in this way: all teams require 8 players, sometimes things happen and a player needs to drop. Not being able to pull in a sub and having to forfeit is not really that awesome.
What I love about this community is that when I need subs playing rydr forexample I can just ask rydr to lend me some of their players, even if it was a competitive match vs rydr. - this ability would completely dissappear.
I would love to have my questions answered, the concerns are just basic concerns, maybe im confused or maybe this didnt work before hand.
Piemanlives:
I believe we've all made our jokes about MLG, time we discussed this in it's entirety. First off I will say I wasn't an advocate of MLG but neither was I against it, for now it seems we'll have to see where this goes.
Concerns:
1. Something I always liked about the GoIO competitive scene was the more open ended and expansive events we put on, while some may have been a hit and miss, Aerodrome, Winterfest, Battle of the Birthdays, and more importantly Baptism by Spire were in fact well put together and a lot of fun to participate in. How would this affect community run events, or rather, will they be affected?
2. Skrim brought up the issue of subs which I will also echo, not all clans or teams for that matter can be guaranteed that all members can be accounted for to actually appear in the match, such as a sudden issue that needs to be dealt with, internet that will not comply under any circumstances, etc. How will this be dealt with?
3. "The host may not force launch the game" This is unnecessary, considering a match can only start once a majority of the captains have readied up. (Less of a concern, more of gripe)
4. Mostly I just want to know how will this affect the game as a whole, obviously depending on how this pans out it could either be negative or positive. What kind of things should we come to expect to happen, how do we deal with "MLG pr0 360 n0 sc0p3" like players during the actual competitive match? (Bit of a joke but it still stands)
Hillerton [PC]:
I have to agree with Skrim and Pieman their is a lot of work to do before any form of actual play can be done. I really hope someone is going to fix some great sets of rules, but until I have seen them I don't trust them to exists (yes I'm most likely paranoid thanks for asking;P)
And I'm also gonna voice concerns about cash prices and subs vs regular team members. Up until now all tournaments have been about the honor and maybe a new fancy hat at best. During this time taking in a random sub or moving ppl around on the teams have been fairly easy, sure you couldn't play this week but we will only be gone an hour and then we can all play with our friends again. But with a cash prize this might change all of a sudden the clan mates selected can get (even is small) an actual reward that wont be given to everyone. It might mess up the friendly and still slightly casual atmosphere that our tournaments have had up until now. Just something I think we should all bear in mind when talking about this... Things might get bigger, cooler and better but are we willing to pay the prize if we become to competitive and all that can bring in hostilities and disputes (like did that lag give you a win or not..?)?
PS I don't really think this will be a problem and I like this well upgrade in general. I just want to make sure that we all think about where we might be going if things go the worst possible way;)
Alistair MacBain:
Lets not rush things.
Lets hope for the best and if it doesnt work out ... so what.
We still got the current competetive scene. Till we see actual results from this MLG thingy just continue ...
There are 3-4 weeks of hephaestus still coming. Lets see how things turn out when we are done with that part.
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