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Squidslinger Gilder:
Aldnoah Zero S2...
I FREAKEN CALLED IT!!! Inaho is back! Asselum is back! MUHAHAHAHA!! You think your cliffhanger was clever huh writers?! It was good, but BOOM!, saw through it!
Arturo Sanchez:
--- Quote from: Gilder Unfettered on January 11, 2015, 01:52:33 am ---You want disturbing incest, remember they add a sister character to Love Hina later. That is downright blatant. Sugu in SAO is very toned down compared to her.
I basically said yes Love Hina is a harem but its not a pure harem. Its a love triangle harem. Even in the manga, which I have btw, only Naru and Mutsumi are ever the main girls. All because of the promise and Mutsumi comes forward first, acknowledging that promise. Naru was one of them too but she was too little to remember. None of the other girls were part of the promise so they aren't viable and their scenes are clearly filler. Only Shinobu holds any hope but even then, her character isn't strong enough to be in the triangle.
Tenchi Muyo is the same. Sure everyone loves Tenchi but it is clear throughout the whole series that it is a love triangle between Ayeka and Ryoko. Tenchi Muyo is also recognized in anime communities as a love triangle, not a harem. Even though it has harem elements.
Vandread...simple romcom with harem added. It is not a pure harem. Its clear from the start Dita is the only one who will fit but they tried to mix in a quad girl mix, then add a 5th later. Plus extras in the background. Harem yes, but not a pure harem. However, Vandread is better than most modern shows that call themselves harems.
Pure harems, all the girls have strong presence and you'll never figure out who is the lead girl till the end. There is no clear winner. There have been a few but its rare.
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Those pure harems of yours are nearly all from visual novels. Those are not harems. You are really projecting an incorrect definition of harem series. The only requirement for a harem series is multiple girls being in love with one guy.
As for the siblings thing?
Kanoko is a step sister. If you want real incest read suki de suki de suki de or just watch the anime.
Squidslinger Gilder:
By your definition just about every series is harem. Dammit, at least have something to differentiate between the steaming pile of bull crap harem and the decent harems.
Yeah she is. But not a huge difference between that and Sugu. Besides Kanako is a creepy perverted freak who frankly wasn't needed for the series or the story. She just was a ploy to get Naru to stop being a tsundere.
And VNs are where a lot of anime get their starts nowadays. Which is why they often have trouble is because the anime commits too strongly to one route and sacrifices the other characters. Hence the predictable crap harems where literally its just two characters with a bunch of background characters and the "harem" label slapped on.
The best pure harem anime is simply Amagami SS only because you get to see all the routes. All the girls get equal screentime. However, the same treatment can be done for others. The directors just have to not outright favor one character over the others from the start. Heck I love Clannad, but I can't label it a harem without an asterisk because the entire show favors Nagisa. All the other characters, are just background or gag characters. They are filler till the main story with Nagisa picks up again.
Arturo Sanchez:
--- Quote from: Gilder Unfettered on January 11, 2015, 04:40:51 am ---By your definition just about every series is harem. Dammit, at least have something to differentiate between the steaming pile of bull crap harem and the decent harems.
Yeah she is. But not a huge difference between that and Sugu. Besides Kanako is a creepy perverted freak who frankly wasn't needed for the series or the story. She just was a ploy to get Naru to stop being a tsundere.
And VNs are where a lot of anime get their starts nowadays. Which is why they often have trouble is because the anime commits too strongly to one route and sacrifices the other characters. Hence the predictable crap harems where literally its just two characters with a bunch of background characters and the "harem" label slapped on.
The best pure harem anime is simply Amagami SS only because you get to see all the routes. All the girls get equal screentime. However, the same treatment can be done for others. The directors just have to not outright favor one character over the others from the start. Heck I love Clannad, but I can't label it a harem without an asterisk because the entire show favors Nagisa. All the other characters, are just background or gag characters. They are filler till the main story with Nagisa picks up again.
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Not by my definition. By the dictionary definition.
Harem, hāremumono (ハーレムもの ?) (from harem), broadly, is an ambiguously-defined subgenre of anime and manga characterized by a protagonist surrounded, usually amorously, by three or more members of the opposing sex and/or love interests.
Yeah, wrong. Clannad every character either has an arc (even on specific routes) or have had past interest with the main character. It's still a harem.
Bronzium:
--- Quote from: Gilder Unfettered on January 11, 2015, 02:27:42 am ---Aldnoah Zero S2...
I FREAKEN CALLED IT!!! Inaho is back! Asselum is back! MUHAHAHAHA!! You think your cliffhanger was clever huh writers?! It was good, but BOOM!, saw through it!
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In response:
Yeah, I kind of thought that way too. It just wouldn't seem right to kill of the main protagonist at the end of the first series, nor the princess.
Will admit though, was a good cliffhanger. Now I'm curious what awaits with the completely unforeseen blindside of Slaine switching sides and aiding Saazbaum. I sense a lot of tension in the future about that, just saying.
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