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Concept for a sunday league

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Captain Smollett:

--- Quote from: Tropo on May 05, 2014, 09:46:47 pm ---PLEASE NO FUCKING COGS
make it simple

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The planetary cog system was actually quite brilliant and a far superior model than the initial cogs.  As a non competitive and barely active player, my opinion doesn't count for all that much anymore however I always wanted to see it happen and it would be pretty darn interesting to me to see it happen after the Hephaestus challenge.

Frogger:

--- Quote from: Wundsalz on May 05, 2014, 12:32:29 pm ---Stuff that could currently need help with:
1. think of a cool name for the league. I'd somewhat like to have this league distinguished from the previous cog seasons, as the nature of this league is quite a bit different.
2. think of a lore! planetary gearings, steampunkish-post-apocalyptic theme. I'm sure someone more creative than me can come up with a pseudo-scientific/mystical story why people would fight each other over a bunch of gears. This also might yield a more unique and fitting name for the league.
3. As you can see my artistic skills are rather limited. If someone is interested in actually designing a cool, steampunkish planetary gearing for the league, pm me please!

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There were plenty of good lore/backstory ideas (mostly contributed by Squash, IIRC) in the Cogs S3 OP here:

https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,2502.0.html

The new organizers of the planetary system could scavenge from this thread as they like. The system is still there - someone just has to implement it.

Wundsalz:
I've designed this League with the Sunday evening slot and a casual spirit in mind. In my opinion one of the major flaws of the Sunday Rumble was its duration which has been especially problematic for European clans like ours, as Sunday rumbles could very well last until midnight and beyond, which kind of sucks if you need to get up early on Monday. Also I personally consider it quite exhausting to play more than two BO3-enounters in a row which has not been unlikely in Sunday Rumbles.
So I thought about how to organize a GoI-Sunday evening which doesn't require too much time-dedication by the players. The result is a concept which allows all participants to have a guaranteed single scrim within a league. Due to the parallel execution of two encounters in series, it's likely that full clan crews will be around before and/or after your league encounter. This provides a good environment to get either additional scrims (outside the league) started or to play semi-public high level lobbies if you want to. Alternatively you could just call it a day.
Overall the league is designed in a more casual spirit than the previously executed cog-series or the planned and cancelled 3rd series. It allows easy drop ins and outs for teams who just want to enjoy a scrim on a sunday afternoon while providing a system which rewards commitment and on-going success for those who want to take the league more seriously and participate in it on a regular basis.

I could possibly see this league format being executed with a start and end date like the Sky-League, Aerodrome or soon the Hephaestus-League. However this would be problematic due to 2 major flaws my league-concept has that other leagues don't have. The initial seeding has a severe impact on the outcome of the League and the League-outcome can be decided before the end of the League. If this league was executed in a similar way as previous ones an execution of a fair and probably rather time-consuming qualification-phase would be mandatory. After the qualification phase ended, a team with a low seed wouldn't have much more than a theoretical chance to win the season or even just be among the top 3 teams at the end of the season.
Hence I'd much rather like to see this Concept being executed as an ongoing league with relatively brief seasons (6-8 weeks) which connect seamlessly. Feel like playing competitive out of the sudden? - Join mid season! - you probably won't win it anymore, but you can work yourself into a good starting position for the next one.


--- Quote from: Tropo on May 05, 2014, 09:46:47 pm ---PLEASE NO FUCKING COGS
make it simple

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You will be informed when to play against which team at what time on what map prior to each event. If you don't want to get into the underlying system, you really don't have to.

Wundsalz:

--- Quote from: redria on May 05, 2014, 01:00:48 pm ---Can GoIO handle 2 long running events at once?
[...]
You propose for this to run Sunday. That would mean we couldn't have any relaxed or low commitment events running on Sunday. The weekend would be committed entirely to high level competitive play, which is hard enough when each team only competes one day.

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I do believe so. The Sunday Rumble ran for more than 20 weeks and always attracted enough teams to get something started.
The league-concept is not designed as a dead-serious tournament. I see it as a more casual, ongoing event that can be entered and exited mid-season by any team.


--- Quote from: Velvet on May 05, 2014, 01:08:58 pm ---
--- Quote ---which is currently not used by GoIs competitive scene.
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note that that's no longer true. spot claimed.

That said, I'm not of the opinion that organisers should try to muscle each other out and claim monopolies on either of the 2 decent timeslots.

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I think we can debate our potential time-conflict once it's settled whether my league concept is a wanted thing or not. Then it's probably time to debate about time-slot usage.
Tha beeing said, I personally wouldn't mind to pause the league if someone has got a good idea for a sunday-event. Also I could see 1-2 special 2 vs. 2 events per season being integrated into the league to mix things up (Baptized by Spire, 2 vs. 2 on 3 vs. 3 maps - stuff like that).

-Mad Maverick-:
I still believe that one season based league at a time is the way to go.  velvet's idea/Sunday rumble were both one-off tourneys that one could fully participate in one week take the next off and fully participate in the week after.  this is what appealed to us wolves so much.  wund I think your tourney caters to a dif crowd than velvet's but I think that crowd is telling you to wait till the other season based tourney is over first

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