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Balance Concerns & Questions 1.1.4

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Pickle:

--- Quote from: Captain Magellan on March 01, 2013, 11:21:03 am ---
--- Quote ---We will make more specific information available in future level unlocks.  The change to the UI is the most friendly for new players.  For y'all advanced players, yeah it's not the most useful.
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I was referring to this quote Hubert Pickle.

EDIT:

--- Quote ---And yes, players with less intelligence will struggle - or rather, lazy players that don't investigate the community or pay attention to readily available information will find themselves disadvantaged.
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I hadn't seen that comment from Awkm, but tbh if Awkm got around to fixing the weapons table on the main website (which I think he admitted breaking himself)  the data is there available to all anyway.  He's only talking about a UI change, I don't think there is any weapon/ship performance data that's not theoretically available to all at the moment - has to be in theory until the website gets some attention.

However I agree with you that any change to the UI (including level of detail shown) should be an optional change available to all players regardless of their current level.. Awkm is (I think) the only member of the Muse team who has chosen to over-write his actual game levels with the impossible to achieve L99 across the board.  I'm hoping that Clara or one of the other will reign in any L33T changes he might implement on the UI.


--- Quote from: Captain Magellan on March 01, 2013, 11:21:03 am ---
--- Quote ---To fix the problem of lazy players, all ya have to do is implement the little explanation text into the old gun stats. "Hello all, I know ya don't want to research about the Hellhound, but that's OK! It's short range and kicks some major butt against the balloon, guns, and engines!"

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That information is available now - between the current UI and the website.  Again, it's a matter of fixing the website data.  The website's currently so out of date it might be a different game.

Captain Magellan:

--- Quote ---I hadn't seen that comment from Awkm, but tbh if Awkm got around to fixing the weapons table on the main website (which I think he admitted breaking himself)  the data is there available to all anyway.  He's only talking about a UI change, I don't think there is any weapon/ship performance data that's not theoretically available to all at the moment - has to be in theory until the website gets some attention.
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Sure, all the info is out there, but seriously, should people have to go and hunt down info on some website? Why not just easily combine all the information right there in the game? All you have to do is combine the text explanation with the old numbers and everybody right there playing the game is pleased.

And an option to change the stats would be fine too but not as effective, because you would have to inform new players that the option is there.

Pickle:

--- Quote from: Captain Magellan on March 01, 2013, 12:02:46 pm ---Sure, all the info is out there, but seriously, should people have to go and hunt down info on some website?
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Yes.  Life isn't a special needs group collective failure hug.  Sometimes you'll have to get off your ass and go find out stuff for yourself.

Captain Magellan:

--- Quote ---Yes.  Life isn't a special needs group collective failure hug.  Sometimes you'll have to get off your ass and go find out stuff for yourself.
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You're right, life isn't a special needs group collective failure hug. BUT THIS ISN'T LIFE. It's a video game. And the people who don't have the time, or are wise enough to know they shouldn't spend most of their free time researching and playing this game should be able to quickly access the information they need to kick my little "can't get off the computer" butt. You don't need experience to beat people (though it helps), you need information and a good plan. People who just have the time to play one or two games a week should be able to get in the game, think "OK, so front shot gun to destroy balloon, left gatling to strip armor, right flak to blow 'em away" and see it work.

awkm:

--- Quote from: Captain Magellan on March 01, 2013, 12:02:46 pm ---Sure, all the info is out there, but seriously, should people have to go and hunt down info on some website? Why not just easily combine all the information right there in the game? All you have to do is combine the text explanation with the old numbers and everybody right there playing the game is pleased.

And an option to change the stats would be fine too but not as effective, because you would have to inform new players that the option is there.

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You want to work for free?  Do you have programming experience?  Do you have UI experience?

I know I sound like a jerk but that's the place we're in.  This is a terrible answer but you'll just have to deal with it for now.  The format right now is the easiest to understand for newbies.  Since y'all are dedicated enough to want it, you'll just have to look it up for now.

Like I've said before, we're going to offer the additional info at higher Gunner levels as a level achievement in a similar format as the manual.

That's the best we can do for now.

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