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Airships = Warship, High Altitude Blimp = Submarine?
Thomas:
As far as I'm aware, hydrogen is actually the more dangerous; since helium doesn't combust.
When dealing with lift of this nature, you need to think in terms of density. Compressing a 'lighter than air' gas makes it more dense, and actually causes it to produce less lift. So assuming you have a container and fill it with helium or hydrogen, it's going to float a bit. If you keep filling it (and it retains the same volume/shape), it will float less and less, and eventually not float at all.
Submarines work in a similar manner. By making their volume more dense (usually letting in water to the tanks) they can sink under the water at a controlled rate. Pushing water out of those tanks reduces the density and lets the submarine start floating upward.
The newer 'airships' in those videos work just like a submarine, but take in and release air to rise and descend.
I think it'd be possible for high altitude airships, but they would take some effort. Realistically you'd need to keep your crew warm and have adequate oxygen and pressure, which means it would likely have to be closed in. The airships in the game currently are 'low' altitude airships.
But for gameplay.... I can't see much enjoyment flying high above the clouds free of obstacles and other ships.
Squidslinger Gilder:
Wouldn't need sound mirrors and such given the tech time period of GOIO and the old world.
If you look at the tech we had leading up to WWII, it wasn't as simplistic or steampunky as people think. Heck they were already making theories about Radar tech and some were even testing them. Wasn't till WWII till those things really saw the limelight but the prototypes and the early stages of development were there.
I only know cause I had to do a little research on some tech from that time period for the VN. Was surprised to see how far along some were.
Cheesy Crackers:
--- Quote from: Archi Rook on March 01, 2014, 03:25:50 am ---"Large", "stealth" and "sky" are not very match each other. Only when clouds are low, possibly - and still very slow, I think.
Thing is, the main thing about stealth aircraft is that they're difficult to locate with radars. There's no such thing as radar (I'm quite sure of it) in GoI world, so "stealth" airship is nonsense in general. Oh I think it´s something to discuss!
There would be large ships in Coop and Adventure mode though. Like, boss ships.
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I think there's some kinda of "hedge hop" (Hopefully got the name right) strategy which is aircraft flying very low to the ground to avoid radar.
Chmielewski:
--- Quote from: Cheesy Crackers on March 03, 2014, 01:32:47 am ---
--- Quote from: Archi Rook on March 01, 2014, 03:25:50 am ---"Large", "stealth" and "sky" are not very match each other. Only when clouds are low, possibly - and still very slow, I think.
Thing is, the main thing about stealth aircraft is that they're difficult to locate with radars. There's no such thing as radar (I'm quite sure of it) in GoI world, so "stealth" airship is nonsense in general. Oh I think it´s something to discuss!
There would be large ships in Coop and Adventure mode though. Like, boss ships.
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I think there's some kinda of "hedge hop" (Hopefully got the name right) strategy which is aircraft flying very low to the ground to avoid radar.
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Of course you´re right!
First, this is aircraft, second, this is radar, third, the line "fly very high" is missing here =)
About helium. Isn't it's extraction and usage is too comlicated for Goi world? What do you think of it?
I like the idea of helium though.
The Sky Wolf:
Hydrogen is lighter than helium and more prevalent on the planet, as well as easier to obtain; in the game they offer you the option of bringing canisters of hydrogen along to replace lost hydrogen or to hyper-inflate the balloon to gain extra altitude quickly. So yeah, hydrogen is whats used in GoI for the airships - be it extremely combustible and impractical or not. So quit arguing over whether helium and hydrogen would be used the stealth bomber because this is extremely basic historical knowledge.
"In early dirigibles, the lifting gas used was hydrogen, despite widespread concern due to its flammability." ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airship.
They didn't really stop using hydrogen until after the Hindenburg incident in May 6, 1937.
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