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Allow players to continue playing novice for roles lower than 4.

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redria:

--- Quote from: SnipahShot on February 25, 2014, 02:19:33 pm ---I obviously got carried away with the 2/10/2 because no level 10 will have the other roles lower than 4.

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I know a player level 15 in gunning, 13 in piloting, and literally never played a game as engineer: level 1. I only just recently leveled by gunner up past 2. A lot of people find what they like and stick with it.


--- Quote from: SnipahShot on February 25, 2014, 01:34:29 pm ---What is up with players in this game.. Why would I want a friend of mine to start playing the first match against high levels? That is probably the worst experience possible for a new player. Imagine yourself as 1/1/1 playing against 10/10/10.

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Now imagine yourself as a 1/1/1 playing *with* a 10/10/10. Think of everything you could learn by communicating. I am absolutely brutal to my engines. I often have to give regular commands to my high level main engineers to stay on task and not let something die. I have had a friend come in and on his second game *ever* he was outperforming over half the engineers I have flown with.

The novice matches are a wonderful place to go if you and your friends have no experience. If noone with you has any information to share about the game, go play with similar people. If one of you has that information, and can help guide the others, it is okay to branch out into the regular matches because it will be the best experience for you. Yes you will meet high level players. Try to be on their team or, if you feel that you can't remain competitive/have fun, find a different lobby. Or ask us to find a different lobby if we just ambushed yours. If I join a random lobby and am asked to leave, I would. That is pretty fair.

The novice matches are a place for those who have no experience on their team. Once you have experience on your team, you can lead, give direction, and help your friends. This is done to protect those who still ave no experience on their team.

redria:

--- Quote from: Imagine on February 25, 2014, 02:49:07 pm ---You'd be surprised. For example, there's someone posting on the forums right now who is 15/1/13.

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Sniped! Dang!

Piemanlives:
I'll state this, I've played since the beta, I really have little interest in leveling, though sometimes I will go for it. While most of the valid points have already been said, there was a point in time in which there were no novice lobbies, you'd have level 1/1/1's mixed in with 5/3/6's and the like, sure you'd be stomped from time to time, but if your crew isn't communicating with one another you aren't going to do a very good job of things. Even further there was a time when there were no levels, so you'd only know someone's skill by reputation or actually knowing them.

Main point? You may be locked out of novice lobbies, yet if you have a grasp of how to play the game and can teach your friends how to play as well you can probably jump into a normal lobby together and have a bash at that, knowing your concern about getting completely 5-Zilled here and there, you will lose, I've had some terrible games that ended up in total defeat, however if you are learning from why you lost you can play better the next round and even beat them.

Dutch Vanya:
Novice matches suck, i don't think people get the proper experience of this game, or learn how to get better. I really believe that one of the wonderful things about this community is that the majority of high level players take their time to teach new ones, rather than (just) stomping them in games. Besides, you can learn so much about every aspect of this game from just being an engineer anyway, that's all i did for my first ~200 games, and i felt comfortable piloting after that.

Adrasteia:
I actually rather like the idea.  I had been playing 5 or so months when I had finally decided to take my first steps as a pilot... At that moment, all I could think was that it would have been amazing if I could jump into the beginner matches and pilot there.  You know, actually learn how to be a pilot without constantly being crushed.

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