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Kestril:
Flak/gat over mortar/gat on the junker? New players seem to hit with the flak, so when I've got 1's and 2's on the ship it's normally my go-to loadout.

But even then, unless I have a particularly good gungineeer on the mortar, I feel that the flak/gat is more consistent in pubs. I also feel that the flak allows for more options while maneuvering around because of it's better swivel speed and range. You don't have to get so darned close and can shoot at some angles more quickly in the mortar. Sometimes I'll stay on the "long" side of short range when trying to avoid flamethrowers (or minimize mortar damage) and other stuff. In short, I guess I prefer the flak's little bit of flexibility, speed, and accuracy over the mortar's raw damage.

I dunno, I catch some flak (hehe, so punny) in the lobby about people going "omgznoez you are playing wrong it haz to be mortar-gat omgnoob" So mark this down as a "validate my reasoning against the meta" thread.

I'll try the hades eventually instead of the gat, but that involves a gunner joining that can shoot the blasted thing.

redria:
I actually can't fly gat-mortar pyramidion anymore. Personally I find it to be far too limiting with too many weaknesses. It makes a pyramidion better against ships it is already good against (like a spire) and worse against ships it is already weak against (like a junker).
My 2 go-to builds now are carronade-flamer, which will basically put you in control of any engagement if you can get close, and hades-artemis, which can pop balloons as well, sets fires, has great downward arcs for sitting above somebody once their balloon is down, and also has the long range option.
Meta is weak. Buck it.
(and lesmok gatling + flak works wonderfully I imagine)

RearAdmiralZill:
Only issue is the fact that by the time you hit gat range, you're real close to the flak's arming time, so you're just lowering your damage. I guess if you talk in terms of them hitting or not, its ok. It'll never really be at peak performance.

Oliver Colt:

--- Quote from: Kestril on January 23, 2014, 02:29:45 pm ---Flak/gat over mortar/gat on the junker? New players seem to hit with the flak, so when I've got 1's and 2's on the ship it's normally my go-to loadout.


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I can't shoot a mortar properly so your point is very true Mr. Kestril. Also what do people mean by shooting a Hades properly? :P It's just a very broad term. Does it mean like, hitting a ship exactly at the hull with it or is it about the ammo types for different ranges or something? [hashtag noob xD]

Also also i don't know if it's just me but gats don't have that short range, unless I've been seeing the other guy's shots this whole time :D But I also don't know the arming time of the flak... Damn I'm going to sandbox brb xD

zlater75@hotmail.com:
flak and gat got nerfed a bit too much which made the mortar still almost the same but closeish range. imho. they became a bit dull and lost their appeal for me. mortar is still appealing but the echidna. don't enjoy it as much as before. gat has so short range but is still very effective on close range.

you might have a point with the arcs but up close the mortar would be more effective for people disregarding arcs.

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