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COGS Season Three, REBIRTH
ramjamslam:
--- Quote from: Byron Cavendish on January 15, 2014, 08:42:39 am ---
--- Quote from: Sammy B. T. on January 14, 2014, 10:35:09 pm ---I know Leto was planning on reaching out to see if Urz was interested in helping out. Leto was looking to make a second casting team. But no, Urz is not inheriting cogs.
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Let me clarify, we had a meeting last night with a few clans discussing how we'd want to proceed if qwerty ran away again. Urz said he'd rather make a new event than try and run Cogs without qwerty (being the projected producer for season 3). That being said, seeing as how this is qwerty's thing with the community's support, I don't think me, or you, or anyone has the right to decide or dictate who gets to "inherit" cogs, whether it's urz or leto, or anyone else, as no one but qwerty really owns it.
So I think if we are going to proceed down this path, then as a community we need to have complete transparency and openness in the decision making, and agreement of how to proceed and move forward with the event. Just springing this up without talking about it, but making it a definite statement seems a bit brash and presumptuous, as if certain select few individuals are in the back making decisions about an event. How else would we have arrived at a thread decided who will be casting, when this event will happen, and how it will work without any prior discussion. If this is indeed a community event, why was Brick not approached? Why was Urz not approached? They have just as much right as leto, They are the senior commentators and producers, if they say no that's one thing, but it doesn't seem that way. Ideally they'd all work together to do this. I want this to happen as soon as possible, I've hated these delays, but just because qwerty is absent doesn't mean anyone can just pounce on it and say "mine!".
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So who is the custodian of cogs while qwerty is absent? My assumption is that it would be Muse which is why I said "I assume you are working closely with Muse to get this going."
Skrimskraw:
--- Quote from: ramjamslam on January 15, 2014, 09:13:13 am ---
--- Quote from: Byron Cavendish on January 15, 2014, 08:42:39 am ---
--- Quote from: Sammy B. T. on January 14, 2014, 10:35:09 pm ---I know Leto was planning on reaching out to see if Urz was interested in helping out. Leto was looking to make a second casting team. But no, Urz is not inheriting cogs.
--- End quote ---
Let me clarify, we had a meeting last night with a few clans discussing how we'd want to proceed if qwerty ran away again. Urz said he'd rather make a new event than try and run Cogs without qwerty (being the projected producer for season 3). That being said, seeing as how this is qwerty's thing with the community's support, I don't think me, or you, or anyone has the right to decide or dictate who gets to "inherit" cogs, whether it's urz or leto, or anyone else, as no one but qwerty really owns it.
So I think if we are going to proceed down this path, then as a community we need to have complete transparency and openness in the decision making, and agreement of how to proceed and move forward with the event. Just springing this up without talking about it, but making it a definite statement seems a bit brash and presumptuous, as if certain select few individuals are in the back making decisions about an event. How else would we have arrived at a thread decided who will be casting, when this event will happen, and how it will work without any prior discussion. If this is indeed a community event, why was Brick not approached? Why was Urz not approached? They have just as much right as leto, They are the senior commentators and producers, if they say no that's one thing, but it doesn't seem that way. Ideally they'd all work together to do this. I want this to happen as soon as possible, I've hated these delays, but just because qwerty is absent doesn't mean anyone can just pounce on it and say "mine!".
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So who is the custodian of cogs while qwerty is absent? My assumption is that it would be Muse which is why I said "I assume you are working closely with Muse to get this going."
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I think what he is trying to figure out is wether leto or the ducks are working with muse on this.
RearAdmiralZill:
I'm with Byron on this one. I'm pretty fed up at this point with delays and management changes that just seem to happen and we are supposed to just nod our heads and accept. No offence to Leto. I've had a few rounds with him and he's a decent guy, but I have no idea of his track record with running events. We've been waiting since November for this to start, and I have very little confidence anymore that Cogs will be run properly, or without more delays.
Before I just sign up and accept anything, I too would like to know how this decision was reached, why it was reached, and who was involved with it.
Byron Cavendish:
I think we should lead this one out to pasture and let it die. Start something new, fresh start, with community involvement that is a serious competitive scene with regular management.
Keyvias:
Hey Guys,
Just wanted to step in and explain as much as I can since there seems to be some confusion.
Qwerty was in charge of the cogs and was working with Leto from an organizational stand point. I was contacted this Monday since Qwerty still hasn't shown up and it's unfair that his absence should stop one of the biggest events we've had.
This means you can blame me for giving the organizational change of face. Leto has been included since the beginning and the change in command is really just changing who in the car is holding the steering wheel. To continue the metaphor Qwerty may or may not be in the car.
Leto has done a lot of amazing work both in casting Guns and helping set up the natural selection competitive community. He became a natural choice since Cogs shouldn't be run by any clan, nor by Muse (sorry for the season 2 mistakes!)
As always it is your choice to join his event or not, but I can promise that Leto is serious about this event and making sure everyone has a great time.
My advice?
Join in, play for the day and see how it goes.
If you have any questions I'm sure Leto would be happy to explain in detail if you PM him.
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