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HamsterIV:
Triple Artemis may not kill as quickly as other combos, but in a 1v1 it will eventually get the kill and keep your ship reasonably safe in the process. In a 2v2 encounter you can split your guns between two targets to reduce the enemy team's DPS while your ally focuses down a target. It is only the 2v1 against you that the Artemis strategy falls apart, but by that point you are pretty screwed no matter what strategy you try.

@Zill
I tried heat sink for the turn rate, but it is pretty situational. Mostly quick shots with the side gun on a fast moving Pyra.

Captain Phil:

--- Quote from: RearAdmiralZill on November 26, 2013, 04:15:31 pm ---Well then something to ask is who here doesn't immediately toss burst ammo into them? Sure there are options but burst seems to be a rather cut and dry choice that could be making the Artemis better with no drawbacks.

--- End quote ---

So lets look at burst ammo, More shots, more aoe, and a slight reduction in firing speed. I see nothing but perks since lower firing speed is alright because the enemy cannot shoot you anyhow because you blew their guns up.

Sammy B. T.:
In the world of spanner rebuilds the extra time between shots matters. Just because an artemis trifecta can beat you* doesn't mean it is op as there are plenty of counters. Vertical movement, long range disables, staying above arc, and allied help all come to mind.

Hit box size / the way aoe effects it could be something to look into, perhaps have a seperate direct hit vs aoe hit hit box where the aoe hitbox is similar to the old size.

* Edit, to clarify. You in this situation means general you, not a specific player.

HamsterIV:
I haven't been loosing to Artemis trifectas so much as I have been getting easy victories from them. They short circuit the Rusher < Brawler < Sniper < Rusher dynamic by being a sniper that can shut down both a rusher and brawler at range. There are too many situations where dumping a steady stream of Artemis shots into a target is viable

Coldcurse:
gatling gun and artemis combination does a decent job

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