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Ship Scrambling and Other Upcoming Features
HamsterIV:
--- Quote from: RearAdmiralZill on November 15, 2013, 06:29:59 pm ---
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And this notion that me wishing to play with people I like/know somehow makes me a jerk is why it's just going to sour the community vs do anything positive. I don't like stacked games. I get no joy in it, and being on the receiving end sucks. That said, i know that 95% of the time when that scramble moves me, ill want to just make a new lobby.
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Not sharing the joy of flying with a well coordinated team with new players makes you a jerk. People are buying this game and leaving it because they don't get the chance to experience what it has to offer. If The experienced players stick to their friend's list and clan rosters, the casual player will not going to see high level play from any angle but the victim's.
Unless you have been at the cutting edge of the meta since beta someone had to coach you on what to bring and what weapons work well together. Someone had to show you how to divide up tasks on a ship to keep it at optimal performance. Someone had to shoot that blender fish off your balloon when you flew into a trap. Flying with your friends is fine but be that "someone" to a new player as well.
A game community can't survive off the hard core. We need the people who fly for 2 hours on the weekend to pad our ranks. Those people aren't going to stick with this game if all they experience is a constant string of losses from vets. Lets throw them a bone every once in a while and let them what winning feels like.
RearAdmiralZill:
If you truly believe that is all we do vs having randoms on our boats from time to time, then you are a bit short sighted. You are also naive to think that all of those players are willing to accept our advice when we provide it. Less then half of them in my most recent experiences have the want to learn more, let alone communicate in any fashion whatsoever.
A great game community needs people who want to play the game for what it is, not say "ready up" every 10 seconds, leave matches when they die once, and ignore the help we try to give.
Scrambling the boats by force isn't going to solve anything, unless the number of lobbies waiting to play was too low.
Cl ick to Ca p t ain:
--- Quote from: RearAdmiralZill on November 15, 2013, 08:48:59 pm ---If you truly believe that is all we do vs having randoms on our boats from time to time, then you are a bit short sighted. You are also naive to think that all of those players are willing to accept our advice when we provide it. Less then half of them in my most recent experiences have the want to learn more, let alone communicate in any fashion whatsoever.
A great game community needs people who want to play the game for what it is, not say "ready up" every 10 seconds, leave matches when they die once, and ignore the help we try to give.
Scrambling the boats by force isn't going to solve anything, unless the number of lobbies waiting to play was too low.
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As much as it pains me there is too much truth in this post, so few new players are willing to be taught the game. Most look at the loadout system as if it were some sort of personalization for them to pick and choose and not as a piece of the ship's loadout to be put together by the captain. More often than not when I get randoms either they are insistent on bringing what they want and argue when requests are made otherwise, or simply loadout the way they want and sit silently ignoring any advice given.
That being said I am also against this scrambling idea, it just seems like an attempt to try something different while avoiding the idea of including a higher level of game lobbies, IE Beginner<Casual<Competitive lobbies. It's a neat idea, that I haven't personally seen done before, and you can tell Muse's heart is in the right place. But I think it will just lead to the "stacked" teams leaving for new lobbies instead though.
HamsterIV:
I would argue some more but I just flew three games with a whiny 14 year old who knew everything. Screw them all.
Urz:
--- Quote from: RearAdmiralZill on November 15, 2013, 06:29:59 pm ---And this notion that me wishing to play with people I like/know somehow makes me a jerk is why it's just going to sour the community vs do anything positive. I don't like stacked games. I get no joy in it, and being on the receiving end sucks. That said, i know that 95% of the time when that scramble moves me, ill want to just make a new lobby.
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Yep.
All this will do is unnecessarily kill active game lobbies.
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