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Simplex FourOhNine:
Hi folks,

I'm a newbie, still trying to figure out the actual mechanics rather than cunning strategies and the like, and when it's a newbie flagged match with one team of pug's and the other three ships of a well coordinated clan it's pretty disheartening, frustrating, and not much fun...

Maybe once someone is flagged as in a clan, prevent them from joining newbie matches? Something anyway, as it's really not at all new-player friendly in such circumstances.

Alistair MacBain:
Being in a clan and adding a clantag doesnt mean you understand the game.
I cant join beginners matches and so does everyone with a class at lvl 4 or above. And the only thing that clans at such a low lvl might be good at is coordinating their ship.
I see so many clans and dont know most of them and i see them fail as often as nonclanguys fail. So i actually dont see the point of restricting this.

A clan from a different game could actually just play a bid of goio and start with the game but still wear their clantag from another game so having a clantag says nothing about skill or knowledge about the game.

N-Sunderland:
What Alistair said.

Also, if you think that one side is too strong, you can easily go and find another match.

Simplex FourOhNine:
Sorry, I think I made a fuzzy point there; I have no problem playing against clan members at all. It's good to see an active clan member of low levels.

What I don't really appreciate is having to face off against a well coordinated team who know each other and work together, presumably all communicating across ships. The other side has three ships crewed with people who have never played the game before. Who do you think's going to have fun there? Certainly not the pugs, they're just there as a shooting gallery.

N-Sunderland; I do. However if the first time I'd played it had been that sort of matchup, I don't know if I'd have stuck around - it's a pointless one-sided slaughter.

Anyway, I just wanted to raise a concern. Might be driving new players away to have them utterly beaten and humiliated 5-0 in their first dozen matches. Losing is one thing but being someone's whipping-boy is no fun.

The Djinn:

--- Quote from: sarsippius on October 14, 2013, 06:43:40 pm ---What I don't really appreciate is having to face off against a well coordinated team who know each other and work together, presumably all communicating across ships. The other side has three ships crewed with people who have never played the game before. Who do you think's going to have fun there? Certainly not the pugs, they're just there as a shooting gallery.
--- End quote ---

The problem is that it's hard to stop people who are friends and/or coordinated from playing together, clan or not. I know I was doing well against level 4-6 captains with a crew of level 1 buddies on a voice-chat and a talkative allied captain, and there's no way to really stop that from happening.

My recommendation is to use voice chat and coordinate your team, or (and this might be preferable) do some non-beginner matches, find some friendly captains, and run with them for a bit. They'll help you learn the ins and outs of the game.

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