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Carronades 1.3.2
-Mad Maverick-:
spud is right. look I'm not saying that it is OP to the point that it needs to be nerfed into oblivion, I'm saying that it didn't need a range AND spread buff.
IvKir:
--- Quote from: Spud Nick on October 03, 2013, 10:32:20 am ---The reduction in spread combined with heavy clip ammo AND the increased range means that we have a very long range and accurate shot gun.
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Yeap. With instant delivery.
I mean it's literally and shortranged version of UT sniper rifle with almost same efficency.
Echoez:
--- Quote from: Nidh on October 03, 2013, 10:23:30 am ---I think the main reason no one complained was because no one (generally speaking) knew the potential of the Goldfish, everyone was using Gat-Mortar Pyras/Junkers. Ever since I started flying blenderfish, I knew something was too powerful about it, I recall telling you Echoez when you introduced me to the ammo combinations that I thought it was "evil" lol.
I understand you don't want it nerfed to oblivion because I agree that it's really the only kill/100% reliable heavy weapon for a brawling Goldfish. I like Zill's idea of spreading out the damage over a larger clip, so that the potential power of the Carronade is the same, but gives the enemy more of a fighting chance.
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If the Heavy carronade is to be nerfed I'd realy like the Hwacha to receive a considerable boost as to be made way more reliable than it is right now, I swear to god, my gunner was taking perfect shots on a Galleon's broadside just to disable one gun. One. Gun. The explosion radius of that gun is simply too small right now without the spread of the old Heavy clip the gun is too much of PITA to use on long range unless you are in a stationary Spire or Galleon.
Of course I recommend that the Heavy Carronade should not be touched until an other viable Heavy gun for the Goldfish comes around. The Galting had that luxury, I don't see why the Heavy Carronade shouldn't. Right now it's the only true brawling weapon the Goldie has, if you take that away it's pretty much turned into a crappy semi-artillery piece that doesn't realy utilize it's manuverability and speed (or side guns other than flares for that reason.)
I don't consider the Hwacha a good alternative at the moment, it's too unreliable and underwhelming (let alone the long reload screws with my gunner's nerves all the time cause it takes so freaking long)
Castus Crios:
The carronade has a downward weakness until you are at ceiling, get a buffed balloon or drop chute and phoenix kero away at a 90 degree angle (depending on ship), wait for allied assistance while you tank balloon and hull. The carronade should always kill balloons fast the hull armor strip from the heavy carronade (even dual light carronades) is what makes the goldfish and carronade in general a viable brawler (Echoez said this). We need strong carronades in the gat/mortar meta fight and even then as mentioned earlier a good disabling ship can put a heavy carronade out of the fight perpetually until allied support in the same way that a heavy carronade can keep you out of the fight until YOUR ally is there.
Perhaps a solely captainlike point of view, but nevertheless a red balloon will always expose you to double team if the enemy is coordinated, if your ally is metamidion you would want to be carronaded if your ally was a squid it would be a different story. If you can't shoot for any reason then your ship is an hp sink buying time for support.
My two cents
-CC
P.S. Drogue chute if you know a squid is carronading you.
HamsterIV:
The Hwacha is my preferred brawling weapon on a Goldfish. Unlike the Carronade it doesn't cause the enemy ship to drop out of my ally's firing arc. It can keep one ship out of the fight while keeping me at a good height to put a side gun on an enemy ship and help my ally with a kill. It works as a finisher (assuming your ally can bring down the hull). If you end up in a 2v1 you can trash your opponent's engines before booking it. If you are lucky the ship with the untrashed engines will get over confident and chase you as you run back to your ally's guns.
IMO the Hawcha is a more team friendly weapon where as the carronade is better lone wolf weapon.
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