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Skrimskraw:

--- Quote from: Garou on September 09, 2013, 04:01:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: Skrimskraw on September 09, 2013, 03:49:55 pm ---I don't care what the casters want, I care about what the teams want.

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I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here. While you make some valid points, I frankly don't agree with your mindset. The casters aren't doing this out of any obligation, nor are they receiving any form of backing from anyone. They are doing this on their own and are basically "gifting" us with the opportunity to play in a competition each week. They aren't required to do that, and given the sort of guerrilla-style they employ, it's not going to be perfect.

It's also worth noting that the casters have to make the same time investment we do, if not more. Brick was saying at one point in the stream that he was starving, and bear in mind it's already pretty late for him by the time we get started, but he's willing to soldier on. Again, these aren't paid professionals where these sorts of situations are expected. These are a few guys putting together a tourney for our benefit. I think it's fair to say that they should be taken into consideration as well.

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I know that they are, and thanks to those who are willing. But my point is that it isnt a valid reason not to let games run without streaming.

Imagine:

--- Quote from: Skrimskraw on September 09, 2013, 03:49:55 pm ---So don't give me that reasoning where you put casters over the teams participating, because thats stupid. As a caster you should feel privileged that you are granted the rights, like we feel privileged that we get to play, but trying to argue that casting is more important than what the teams feel is not.

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I'm sorry, what?

Don't try to feed me that bullshit, Skrim. In fact, it should be you, as a team, that should be happy that there are organized events like this to participate in. This is a two-way street buddy, you should feel privileged that you're allowed the rights to participate in events that are promoted, organized, reffed, casted, and then edited by people who are not you. Pissed off at the time it starts or the amount of time it takes to play out? Fine, give some productive feedback or suggestions, but if all you're going to do is spew this dumb vitriol, go make your own event. Frankly I'm shocked at how much sudden hate you have for something that you decided to participate in once. I'm also pretty sure this wasn't meant as an alternative to cogs and was just something tossed out saying as hey, this should be fun, sign on up (but hey, once again, I'm not Urz so that's pure speculation on my part).

Through all my posts I've consistently said that I understand why teams were unhappy with waiting for their games to begin, and we've had some good thoughts about how to make it better. If all you're going to do is come in here and try to act all superior though, please stop.

N-Sunderland:
There's an easy solution to teams taking forever in the lobbies. In the Flotsam, we'd have Duck Buddies (in any other tournament it'd be a ref) create lobbies the moment the preceding matches started. That way everybody would fill in while another match was underway, and any coin tosses etc. would be handled. The transitions between matches were way smoother that way.

Rutger Shaw:
in some cases Sunderland's idea would work, but the problem when applied to TSR is that some matches(towards the end) there are at least one team still in a match.
but earlier it could work, I always felt like it was kind of silly to wait in crew formation when I could be in a lobby.

As for the tournament so far... show me one standard tournament that doesn't have its kinks? as far as I can tell, TSR has come a LONG way in 5 weeks. I agree we should time lobbies. I mean teams need time to adjust, and crew need a short break to take care of things, but the lobby shouldn't be open for 15 minutes.

and remember TSR is a weekly "have fun and experiment new load outs/crews/ect or just to get into the competitive scene (because CoG's can be a little limited)"

if this sunday's tournament is even bigger, it maybe prudent to start either a new channel to stream, or as garou stated, a group that records it. heck TSR could also be a place for people to try their hand at casting/streaming/editing.

I feel people should relax a little and understand that the competitive scene on Guns is not LoL or SC quality...yet... and remember that the people DOING the streams are normal people who work or go to school. So it is us, the players, that should feel privileged that they take the time to set these things up for us.

so please lets try to work the kinks out and continue to have fun. after all...it's still a game.

Rutger Shaw of the Wolfpack

Squash:
I haven't watched much of the Sunday Rumble but my understanding is that massive chunks of time are lost in late starts and slow transitions between matches, is that accurate?

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