Off-Topic > The Pit
Ok, time to deal with less than pleasant players
HamsterIV:
I spend a lot of time with complete strangers on this game. There have been many times where my patience just isn't up to it. I can recall five different incidents this weekend where I lost my temper at a player who wasn't keeping up with my expectations. I tend to make the assumption that if a person did not carry out my order by the second time I repeat it, they are making the conscious choice to disrupt the game for myself and the other people on the ship.
However the best way to deal with bad players is by yelling at them. Either they become good players, quit the game, or lurk around to troll. Most of the time they become good players, so I stop yelling at them and start complimenting them. Some times they leave the server and I never see them again, so they are no longer my problem. Very rarely they will stick around inspite of all the verbal abuse I heap upon them. At this point I finish the game, block the name, and let the rest of the lobby know I am leaving because of <troll player name> so they can block the name too.
Zenark:
I am, sadly, pretty lax when someone on my ship doesn't listen to me. I don't know if they can't hear me, think I'm talking to someone else, think that whatever they're doing is better than my orders, or are really trolling. Usually, I can figure out a way to make up for their incompetence, but if they really are trolling, I'll troll them back. It's not hard to turn the ship so that they can't shoot the gun they want to shoot, or going to a hiding spot and having a deck party while I bad mouth them in a playful, not-serious way or remain completely silent (works incredibly well) . They eventually get bored when they see that they're unable to make me mad, so they'll either leave mid-match, or they'll leave the next match when I continue to not fly the ship.
This hasn't happened often, and when it does, the enemy and allied captains are sympathetic enough to deal with my issues.
Other than putting up with it or trolling back, there currently is nothing we, as players, can do. I agree that we should have some way of getting rid of these players, but such a large scale segregation would cause more harm than good. I still think the best way to deal with this is giving power to the players. MUSE says we can't kick, so we need some other option that could be used in-game to dissuade players from playing independently and encourage teamwork. Kicking a player off of the guns, maybe a button that could mute them for the entire ship, or even a way to replace them with an AI, forcing them to watch out something.
I figure a Captain abusing a 'kick' function or similar power would be a metaphorical death wish. There are two other witnesses on a ship that could report a captain for abusing his power.
Charon:
--- Quote from: Imagine on September 02, 2013, 07:42:20 pm ---No.
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Was going to post this myself, but I see you've done the job. Have a salute.
Mepic Von Shreck:
Right, I feel, as a newish player, I should have a little say.
When I first came onto GOI, I played a bit with people I know in real life, as we could communicate well with each other and all know when to take things seriously. This resulted in some pretty good wins in beginner matches. When they went offline for the most part, I ended up joining a random crew with one of the guys remaining (engi). Of course, it was a pyra (can't remember the build but it was amazingly good fun) and we ended up chatting a fair bit and having a great time, despite many of the other beginner ships being pretty dreadful (no lies here). Because of them being so bad, we decided to go to a non-beginner DM, being 1-1-1 for the most part. In those matches we had 5 perfect wins, with us taking quite a few kills despite being so new. And we weren't being overly serious about it. If people messed up (we had some hilarious hwacha disasters) we'd just laugh it off and joke, before getting back to semi-seriousness. This was great fun and actually worked really effectively.
However, since it could be arguably said to be 'casual' in the way we played, despite the fact we were pretty damn successful - following this I've ran quite a few DMs with the pilot, and have formed a pretty decent crew of people through random matches - your idea would result in us not being able to join any 'experienced' games. I think it's ridiculously elitist to think that everyone who doesn't take GOI seriously to the point of shouting at people (I've come across a few myself, though fortunately haven't been shouted at directly) shouldn't be 'in with the cool kids', so to speak.
It was only through joining the non-beginner matches and having a laugh with more experienced players that I really developed my own skill and ended up racking up some really good, fun games... And wins.
So it's just ridiculous that you would act so elitist when, really, it's the non-beginner matches that push beginners, like me, to become more experienced in GOI.
TL;DR The original post is utter elitist rubbish that will do nothing to help GOI.
Mr. Ace Rimmer:
--- Quote from: Mepic Von Shreck on September 03, 2013, 05:29:55 pm ---Right, I feel, as a newish player, I should have a little say.
When I first came onto GOI, I played a bit with people I know in real life, as we could communicate well with each other and all know when to take things seriously. This resulted in some pretty good wins in beginner matches. When they went offline for the most part, I ended up joining a random crew with one of the guys remaining (engi). Of course, it was a pyra (can't remember the build but it was amazingly good fun) and we ended up chatting a fair bit and having a great time, despite many of the other beginner ships being pretty dreadful (no lies here). Because of them being so bad, we decided to go to a non-beginner DM, being 1-1-1 for the most part. In those matches we had 5 perfect wins, with us taking quite a few kills despite being so new. And we weren't being overly serious about it. If people messed up (we had some hilarious hwacha disasters) we'd just laugh it off and joke, before getting back to semi-seriousness. This was great fun and actually worked really effectively.
However, since it could be arguably said to be 'casual' in the way we played, despite the fact we were pretty damn successful - following this I've ran quite a few DMs with the pilot, and have formed a pretty decent crew of people through random matches - your idea would result in us not being able to join any 'experienced' games. I think it's ridiculously elitist to think that everyone who doesn't take GOI seriously to the point of shouting at people (I've come across a few myself, though fortunately haven't been shouted at directly) shouldn't be 'in with the cool kids', so to speak.
It was only through joining the non-beginner matches and having a laugh with more experienced players that I really developed my own skill and ended up racking up some really good, fun games... And wins.
So it's just ridiculous that you would act so elitist when, really, it's the non-beginner matches that push beginners, like me, to become more experienced in GOI.
TL;DR The original post is utter elitist rubbish that will do nothing to help GOI.
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You sir get a cookie and a salute from me :) Pretty much sums up what a lot of us are trying to get across.
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