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"Guns of Icarus" fans, holding game back.

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Shinkurex:
I cannot speak for everyone unfortunately, but I do attempt to help educate newcomers whenever they ask questions... even if I'm on the opposite team... you can learn a lot from playing with those high level players, I will not argue with that... it's true.... Will you always (and I mean always) commit to crew with newcomers when you are a high level?

RearAdmiralZill:
Problem is you just missed the fact they won 5-4 against us in a very good match.

Posts like this are why the community isnt that big. No one is forcing you to press the ready button. The title of the match is not "New player game!" Is it some kind of sin to play with friends? Should the game be full of people who arent "Fans?" You have to learn the game. And in this age of FPS's, no one really seems to want to except the "fans." We tirelessly train new people who are willing to learn,  who communicate, and accept advice instead of charging head first into 2 ships and wonders why they die. Stacked teams is a poor excuse for not learning from defeats. It certainly didnt happen for me overnight. But I never claimed all the high levels were either targeting me, or forcing me to leave.

Just because 11k people bought the bundle does not mean they bought it for GOIO either, so claiming that we as huge fans and regular players of the game are somehow responsible for the player count diminishing is pretty insulting. I dont care if you disagree with me, and I probably sound like a horrible person right now, but whining about stacked teams will not make you a better GOIO player. Wins will not be handed over to you so you can feel some fake sense of accomplishment. You earn them like every other player, new and old has.

Heck, join my ship, follow orders, and Ill teach you something. I speak for myself and my friends when i say we do not "Stack teams" to steamroll over new players. What fun is that? The real wins are when the score is close, and youre playing your tail off to gain a victory.

N-Sunderland:
Ugh, I just spent forever writing a reply on my phone, and then I lost the Wi-Fi -_-

Anyways, when I was new to the game, I got better by searching for stacked teams and intentionally playing against them.

Zill, you're getting a salute for that post.

Squash:
Hold the phone. We all appreciate what you're saying, and we all had to start at level 1, knowing nothing about how the game works, and dealing with stacked teams. It's obvious the game has retention problems and this is a big cause. But having said that:

You don't get to dictate how we enjoy a game. If you want to level this accusation on CA's that's one thing, but the rest of us are still just playing a game, we don't have some kind of social responsibility past that. Most people I know help new people learn to play, but what you're talking about goes to a level beyond that.

For instance, while I love teaching one or two new players, being on a ship of entirely new players is the pits, and I endeavor to avoid that.

Also, I mean, come on. Firestone's on blue team. That's gotta at least cancel out Zill.

Captain Magellan:
Ummm. Less players? The week before the purchase there was 17 to 30 players waiting on the busiest times when I played. Now there is usually over 1 hundred. I'd say MORE players my friend.

Stacked teams is either usually two things. One: you jumped into a clan match where a trained and experienced clan is practicing (sometimes against another clan). Or two: the culmination of ol' pals slowly getting on and joining games. Experienced players stack teams not because they want to crush all oncomers (what fun is that, it's the close hard won victories that are the sweetest), we stack 'cause we know each other, want to play with each other, and have a blast doing it (literally).

One factor that will help with stacking is mics. If you get GOIO I HIGHLY advise you purchase a mic. You'll be MUCH better and the game is just loads of fun. I played a game today with three guys I'd never met, all three relatively new. They had mics and IT. WAS. A. BLAST. I honestly had some of the best games today. :) I like to join teams and crews with mics, cause it's just fun to talk to people.

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