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GUNS & GUNNER SKILLS Balance Discussion v1.3.1
QKO:
--- Quote from: awkm on August 20, 2013, 06:16:21 pm ---There are ways to move out of arc and prevent arc from being gotten on you.
If you are in arc, yes greased mortar will just utterly destroy you.
Again:
- What were you engineers doing? Why is your armor down. The Galleon has a TON of armor. This is why it's a tank.
- What were your teammates doing? Why haven't they distracted or broken up the focus fire?
- Where were you in combat? Why did you not take evasive action?
There are a lot of things at work here. Under very specific circumstances, yes a lot of things will seem OP.
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They are not my crew, I inform my crew every time that when hull armor is down, we are going to die instantly. Why? Because everyone and their mother has a mortar on his ship; it's firing pattern is even more consistent than the flak. I've seen other people's crew's ships die at a blink of an eye just because the hull armor went down and I started firing rounds. It is just too easy. There isn't even a guessing game involved, hull armor down -> ship dead, which unlike the flak is guaranteed.
Furthermore, it doesn't matter whether they were repairing or not, that chaingun will eventually take down the armor and it will take them a considerable amount of time to rebuild it. Now, when considering lesmok, it would be easy for them to fix the armor in time and let the armor take most of the explosive damage. But I seriously doubt that anyone fends off a greased burst; no matter how hard they try. That is head on damage.
You recommend evading the damage, and I'm pretty sure everyone here would love too. But short of moonshining out of range(and breaking my most likely damage engines) I don't see any ways of avoiding the firing arc of a mortar. Maybe Hydrogen could work. But regardless, it's still unlikely that a ship like pyramidion can be shaken by a Galleon. The Galleon in all its glory can fight, put up a manly fight, but evasion isn't exactly its thing.
awkm:
Mortar will be receiving some changes in a hot fix among other weapons.
Until other people can back up your claims, the Galleon is not changing.
Serenum:
I'm backing up the claim of QKO, mortar is absolutely capable of killing a Galleon in one clip (what kind of ammo are used to accomplish this I don't know):
In fact, since the armor of the Galleon takes forever to rebuild I'd say that it's the most vulnerable ship to mortar spam strategy.
RearAdmiralZill:
Then that implies an issue with the mortar, which awkm has already said is getting changes in the coming hotfix. So....yea?
awkm:
It's always been a fact, since the beginning, that the mortar could destroy any no armor ship with 1 clip. What that indicates is a failure of positioning and teamwork.
The mortar can STILL kill any no armor ship with one clip.
The Galleon is not a ship you charge into battle with. There are other ships that are more capable of doing that.
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