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Improved matchmaking via a ranking system
Calico Jack:
--- Quote from: Surette on August 08, 2013, 04:04:12 pm --- Having more people help with training is certainly something we should encourage, but I don't think we should rely on that, because it's not feasible.
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Sometimes it's also unavoidable though.
Pickle:
--- Quote from: Pickle on August 08, 2013, 02:45:48 am ---I'm not convinced the Beginner Matches are even helping beginners.
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Back to this point..
Is there any way that a pool of experienced players can get into Beginner matches - just in the Spectator slots? Pulling beginners into specific training matches is like pulling teeth. The games I've seen become dominated by the trainers making up numbers with very few trainees.
I've had players up to L3 coming onboard recently unaware of some of the basics - e.g. timing flak shots to armour destruction. With no experience in the Beginner matches the best that can be hoped for is that players won't learn too many bad habits. They certainly don't seem to be learning very many good ones.
It's coming back to this potential for the beginners to break-up into the Stomped and the Stompees.
Calico Jack:
--- Quote from: Pickle on August 14, 2013, 11:22:22 am ---
--- Quote from: Pickle on August 08, 2013, 02:45:48 am ---I'm not convinced the Beginner Matches are even helping beginners.
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Back to this point..
Is there any way that a pool of experienced players can get into Beginner matches - just in the Spectator slots? Pulling beginners into specific training matches is like pulling teeth. The games I've seen become dominated by the trainers making up numbers with very few trainees.
I've had players up to L3 coming onboard recently unaware of some of the basics - e.g. timing flak shots to armour destruction. With no experience in the Beginner matches the best that can be hoped for is that players won't learn too many bad habits. They certainly don't seem to be learning very many good ones.
It's coming back to this potential for the beginners to break-up into the Stomped and the Stompees.
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I've started running a thrice weekly sessions on Mon/Wed/Fri. I've not any trouble filling a 2v2 usually with 1 CA/exp player per ship - I believe you were in at the start of one on Monday Pickle.
The problem in particular with level 3s I'm seeing is they are convinced they know the game, having played X amount of matches in level locked games against teams that are uncoordinated and uniformed as to the basics if the game, they have never really had to learn how to play better to win. As a trainer I'm able to join level locked games but as I'm uninvited my advice is looked upon in the same light, given that I have no special chat colour. That isn't to say I've not been able to engage with players in level locked games but you really do need one experienced player per ship to actually do anything of any value, and at the moment I'm he only trainer in my timeslot.
TLDR
training is available, but not everyone feels they need training.
HamsterIV:
--- Quote from: Pickle on August 14, 2013, 11:22:22 am ---
--- Quote from: Pickle on August 08, 2013, 02:45:48 am ---I'm not convinced the Beginner Matches are even helping beginners.
--- End quote ---
Back to this point..
Is there any way that a pool of experienced players can get into Beginner matches - just in the Spectator slots? Pulling beginners into specific training matches is like pulling teeth. The games I've seen become dominated by the trainers making up numbers with very few trainees.
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I think the CA's and mods have permission to join beginner matches as players or spectators. They have already sworn to the sky whale to not be a-holes.
DMaximus:
--- Quote from: HamsterIV on August 14, 2013, 03:29:15 pm ---
--- Quote from: Pickle on August 14, 2013, 11:22:22 am ---
--- Quote from: Pickle on August 08, 2013, 02:45:48 am ---I'm not convinced the Beginner Matches are even helping beginners.
--- End quote ---
Back to this point..
Is there any way that a pool of experienced players can get into Beginner matches - just in the Spectator slots? Pulling beginners into specific training matches is like pulling teeth. The games I've seen become dominated by the trainers making up numbers with very few trainees.
--- End quote ---
I think the CA's and mods have permission to join beginner matches as players or spectators. They have already sworn to the sky whale to not be a-holes.
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Or Bacon. But yes, CAs are able to join beginners matches and non-CAs be given permission to do so on a case-by-case basis.
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