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What I Notice about GoIO and Why its Population has Been Decreasing
Barujin:
I've wanted chosen AI a lot. I don't understand why we must tollerate random AIs.
Calico Jack:
--- Quote from: Serenum on July 20, 2013, 08:41:15 am ---
--- Quote from: Calico Jack on July 19, 2013, 01:51:40 pm ---so you have a ship and 3 trolls spawn in and kick you off - wacha gonna do?
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I'll report them and then find another game in less then a minute.
That said, I haven't seen many trolls in this game.
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I was referring to having a kick vote used against you - a common occurrence in any multiplayer game with a kick vote, and I'm sure that's one of the reasons Muse doesn't want to implement it.
QKO:
--- Quote from: Adino on July 20, 2013, 01:17:36 pm ---Institute a requirement-to-join function. A Captain would be able to set minimum level, required class, required mic usage, and required amount of thumbs-ups. Those things ought to be useful for something, anyway.
Problem solved. No kick function necessary.
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That's a pretty good idea. The kick function should still be there for damage control(in case one of the players didn't take his medication).
QKO:
--- Quote from: Calico Jack on July 21, 2013, 05:43:17 am ---I was referring to having a kick vote used against you - a common occurrence in any multiplayer game with a kick vote, and I'm sure that's one of the reasons Muse doesn't want to implement it.
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It's not common for people to be kicked without reason. I've already provided you with examples of how players kick and how dedicated they are in kicking you once you trigger them. The trick simply is not to trigger them and you won't get kicked. I have played that game(Alliance of Variant Arms) for a few years and I got kicked maybe 30 times? My behavior in 15 of those 30 times might have been questionable, the other 15 times was when I entered standard level games with a noob account(we call those the green ranks), which are more likely to be dicks in the first place. And at such a point, it just happens; and you move on to the next game. But still, 30 kicks for over 1000 games, it's not really a number to worry about.
Calico Jack:
--- Quote from: QKO on July 21, 2013, 08:42:27 am ---
It's not common for people to be kicked without reason.
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You are working with the supposition that you'll be dealing with people willing or at least able to dialogue and compromise, in short like yourself.
Trolls don't tend to do either, as the point of trolling isn't to be reasonable - it is to provoke a strong reaction for kicks. Trolls are quite inventive, continually calling kick votes so you get a dialogue opening up every 2 seconds during matches, teaming with other trolls to kick teamates or on servers that don't have manual kick votes but kick for certain behaviours, needling team-mates into committing kickable offences so they are auto-kicked. Then they switch sides and do it all again, rinse and repeat.
Vote kicks may pander to your desire to get revenge but kicking and kick votes are so open to abuse that in many multi player games with those functions, most public servers remove the ability to kick vote for casual users, totally defeating the kick system. In other words vote kicks make more trouble than they actually solve.
In GoIOL, besides the typical chat troll blurping out white power slogans or slagging off <insert religion/cultural icon here>, I've witnessed/been party to 3 trolling events at at different levels of escalation (all in the past month I might though this may be coincidence - I was forced to stop playing for a couple of months). The first was settled by the players in the match through verbal reasoning, the second by getting a CA involved as the players in the match didn't carry enough weight for the player and the 3rd went as far as getting a Muse representative (all of whom are empowered with kick bans) involved before the player began listening to verbal reasoning. In all 3 cases the end result was the trolling stopped and normal play resumed uninterrupted, for me that is a system that works.
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