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Morblitz:
The latter, but in the past I have noticed similiar behaviour from Occasionally Effective, which I think had set the example, and is why it's becoming seen as an acceptable way to to commentate on matches.

Squidslinger Gilder:
It is a factor in sharing vids to others. Some of it gets to the point you don't really want others to watch it. Yeah they are griping and moaning about sniping on stuff like Duel but honestly, did any of them analyze the options left open? No. They spent more time complaining about it. No one pointed out why we'd be doing it. What tactical reason we'd have for not barreling into a Galleon's broadside. Let alone for the fact that everyone forgets we were loadout locked for next match so we not only had to prep for one match, but two. We were going to run Galleon on Duel but then I remembered we'd be on Fjords after. Had to switch back to Pyra and prep or long range battle with that.

It would be nice to get some more tactical assessments going. They do call out some stuff at times but it tends to be from their vantage point where they can see all the ships. Most of the time we can't.

Qwerty Kun:
Hey everyone thanks for the feedback, just want to address a few things.

Morblitz: Fair enough I understand your point. Honeybadger and Fade very kindly came in at the last second and we weren't really able to manage it. I'm going to watch the vid and likely just write down a few guidelines on how CeSport casters should behave. However I would like to raise a point.

The BFS v Polaris matches went on for almost 1.5 HOURS. Even famous casting pairs like tasteless are artosis do 'Off Topic Banter' when a match is proceeding slowly or there are technical difficulties. At the point where we started banter today we felt we had exhausted ALL OPTIONS OF GOIO DISCUSSION. We had discussed builds, map/cover/moving, maybe not enough on player skill and had discussion on the merits of individual weapons. We were OUT of things to talk about.

Gilder: This is not an attack when I say this, it's said in a tone asking for further discussion; I think a lot of your post is wrong/false. Did we analyse the options left open / why you would be making your choices? Yes. We commented on Polaris's preference for recent sniping and that you would likely attempt to counter snipe using your same armour shred build. We ALSO commented on how suicidal it would be to charge a hwacha galleons broadside. PAPA specifically said you were loadout locked (that was my mistake, forgive me).

As to tactical assesments: 'Some stuff'? we frequently call out what we can see and how it can be used to each teams advantage/disadvantage. I believe that is one of the key points of our commentary. I will admit that yes it is all information we have that you likely don't, I can try to commentate more on what you might see/know of course but I feel I allready do it a bit (talking about flanking, teams of being aware of enemy positions etc).



As to the whole 'bagging out snipers' yeah that could be toned down a bit, i'll work on it.

At the end of the day while I am to be a proffesional caster I am still an amature so I love feedback like this :D

Cheers,

Qwerty

Squidslinger Gilder:
Well apologies if I missed it. I know stuff is getting mentioned but it just feels greatly overshadowed by rest. I dunno maybe we need commercial breaks or...hmmmm...ya know I've never been a huge Dodger fan but their long time commentator Vin Scully always would seem to be able to make boring games interesting by finding relative topics to say to fill the monotony, which would usually be just about every Dodger game. Usually stats on the player or team but could we do something similar for guns...that is a question since we don't have public stats viewable. But it would be a step between...ZOMG HULL IS DOWN!! to Papa, PULL MY FINGER!! If you casters would like some info provided I guess it would be something to consider asking for the tournaments. Screenshot stats tabs or something. Run the risk of ego making for some but if it would help give you guys more content to discuss then I'm game to give it a shot.

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--- Quote from: Gilder on June 09, 2013, 02:11:06 am ---Well apologies if I missed it. I know stuff is getting mentioned but it just feels greatly overshadowed by rest. I dunno maybe we need commercial breaks or...hmmmm...ya know I've never been a huge Dodger fan but their long time commentator Vin Scully always would seem to be able to make boring games interesting by finding relative topics to say to fill the monotony, which would usually be just about every Dodger game. Usually stats on the player or team but could we do something similar for guns...that is a question since we don't have public stats viewable. But it would be a step between...ZOMG HULL IS DOWN!! to Papa, PULL MY FINGER!! If you casters would like some info provided I guess it would be something to consider asking for the tournaments. Screenshot stats tabs or something. Run the risk of ego making for some but if it would help give you guys more content to discuss then I'm game to give it a shot.

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I've actually been thinking of expanding the tournaments wikia page to include some stats for teams which would include their records in tournaments and on specific maps, but it would be quite a lot of work to go back through the videos from recent tournaments (especially since some where lost).

Past that it would be really difficult to even determine what kind of stats would be valid... maybe what ships have what kind of winning percentage of a given map? It gets pretty difficult to determine what would be a relevant stat.

Anyways, my point is even stats would only take you so far in covering dead air in games of GoI, and you really can't compare it to baseball which has stats out the goddamn wazoo.

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